Guido Terreni, CEO of Parmigiani Fleurier Navigates The Future of Luxury Watchmaking
Parmigiani Fleurier CEO Guido Terreni
In Parmigiani Fleurier, one discovers an entirely unlikely success story; like so many of these, it appeared to happen virtually overnight yet it was decades in the making. No doubt you know that this is about the Tonda PF collection since this was the family of watches that changed the trajectory of the brand back in 2021. This much is obvious, and thus conventional wisdom also has it that the person responsible here is none other than CEO Guido Terreni. The man himself is not so quick to embrace this role in the story so far, although he certainly agrees that Parmigiani Fleurier is on the road to a brighter future. We think he deserves credit at least as the navigator but also as the architect of the narrative.
In the most recent Morgan-Stanley report on the state of the Swiss watch industry, Parmigiani Fleurier powered into the top 50 brands (at number 46) for the first time. While this report, and others like it, are merely indicative rather than definitive, it still highlights how far the brand has come in a few short years. Back in 2020, as lockdowns were being eased here, we wrote that collectors and the community should take the trouble to reacquaint themselves with Parmigiani Fleurier. Then the firm affirmed our interest with the release of the Tonda GT Sport, by far the most handsome and commercially oriented collection to bear the Parmigiani Fleurier badge.
Terreni, who took the helm at Parmigiani Fleurier in early 2021, told us that he felt the foundations of a great collection of watches began with the Tonda GT Sport. At the same time, he wanted to take things further because he saw Parmigiani Fleurier as a brand with “a gentle and understated soul,” and something like the Tonda GT Sports could easily have veered into aggressive territory; there was already a built-in motorsports angle here after all. Instead, Terreni made a bet on the understated qualities of Parmigiani Fleurier, which critics had long charged were holding the brand back. Terreni's answer was to go quiet and transform the brand by doing the unthinkable in watchmaking: removing the brand name from the dial.
Yes, the Tonda PF only has a cartouche with the brand logo on the dial, a logo that had never been used this way dial-side before. By the end of 2021, the new Tonda PF was already making waves, and we managed to shoot it for our cover that year (#63). Three years later, the virtues of the Tonda PF collection are well known, and it is apparent that the shift to using a badge instead of the brand name is evident elsewhere too, even in the unique creations such as the L’Armoriale pocket watch (see Highlights this issue). To be sure, using a logo instead of a full brand name, even when the founder is still very much in the picture, is relatively odd. In watchmaking, considering how small the product is, you might think this nothing much but you would be wrong. Swiss watchmaking is nothing if not conservative and you only have to scan through various interviews with Terreni to see how often he got asked about this. For the record, we asked him to in our last two chats with him.
For this most recent meeting between ourselves and Terreni, we skipped the brand name questions and went in decidedly more idiosyncratic directions.
We did not get a chance to get into your thoughts on Watches and Wonders Geneva when we met there so let's start there.
Well, I am very fond of international watch fairs like Watches and Wonders Geneva, especially qualitative ones. This year (2023) we set our second appointment with the industry, with clients and with the press in a continuation of what we had done the year before, when we returned to (a physical fair) and put Parmigiani Fleurier back on the watchmaking map.
To me, this fair in particular should be THE real appointment of the industry. I would love that every brand showcases at Watches and Wonders Geneva because it's a week in which the public tunes in on watches; watches are not a purchase one makes frequently (when it comes to the broader public). So not everybody's really following what the brands are doing (all the time) and if you're buying a watch every five-10 years, it's not like you follow the industry like people who are in the industry. So having an appointment in which everybody knows that there's something to follow and (events that one can track) to me is very instrumental.
Tonda PF with micro-rotor
So you are positive on the public days then?
I was used to this in (the now-defunct) BaselWorld, which was open to the public and was ticketed. The public, the trade and the press were not separated; they were all together (although appointments were needed to walk into the private spaces within brand booths).
Here, at Watches and Wonders Geneva, the organisers prefer to have some separation because the space is smaller, so for logistical reasons, it has to be this way (the PalExpo space for Watches and Wonders Geneva is likely smaller than just Hall 1 of BaselWorld, for some context – Ed). This year, there will be three days dedicated to the public and I think (all brands will) be more ready this year than last year. The public took us by surprise in 2023. There were more than 10,000 visitors over two days and the average age was 35. It was really people who were in the early days of understanding what watches (and the hobby of collecting watches) is about. You have to invest in (improving and raising the) knowledge of the audience, and it doesn't matter if they will not buy immediately. At least they grow their interest and they get to touch and feel the products; (the fair) becomes their introduction to the brands.
”You have to invest in (improving and raising the) knowledge of the audience, and it doesn't matter if they will not buy immediately”
This speaks to something we discussed previously – all the new people drawn to watchmaking. How does Parmigiani Fleurier speak to this group, while balancing the needs of the established collectors?
Well, it's quite natural; I think you have to adapt...to customise your talking points. (If someone already knows the brand story) you can skip this and directly go on to a subject that is specific and deeper. It all depends on who you have in front of you. So usually people go shopping in a physical store to be educated, because they have been introduced to the watch or the brand when they saw it on the wrist of a friend, or they read about it. There is a sort of research that the customer does – especially when going up in price (of any given watch), you are often going deeper into watchmaking content. Of course, not everybody is a watch lover. A lot of people are just buying the watch for the hype or because it's cool...they like the aesthetics. What drives people is personal, you know, so the brand has to relate to the audience individually.
Tonda PF 36mm
We did not get a chance to get into your thoughts on Watches and Wonders Geneva when we met there so let's start there.
Well, I am very fond of international watch fairs like Watches and Wonders Geneva, especially qualitative ones. This year (2023) we set our second appointment with the industry, with clients and with the press in a continuation of what we had done the year before, when we returned to (a physical fair) and put Parmigiani Fleurier back on the watchmaking map.
To me, this fair in particular should be THE real appointment of the industry. I would love that every brand showcases at Watches and Wonders Geneva because it's a week in which the public tunes in on watches; watches are not a purchase one makes frequently (when it comes to the broader public). So not everybody's really following what the brands are doing (all the time) and if you're buying a watch every five-10 years, it's not like you follow the industry like people who are in the industry. So having an appointment in which everybody knows that there's something to follow and (events that one can track) to me is very instrumental.
Tonda PF MInute Rattrapante
So you are positive on the public days then?
I was used to this in (the now-defunct) BaselWorld, which was open to the public and was ticketed. The public, the trade and the press were not separated; they were all together (although appointments were needed to walk into the private spaces within brand booths).
Here, at Watches and Wonders Geneva, the organisers prefer to have some separation because the space is smaller, so for logistical reasons, it has to be this way (the PalExpo space for Watches and Wonders Geneva is likely smaller than just Hall 1 of BaselWorld, for some context – Ed). This year, there will be three days dedicated to the public and I think (all brands will) be more ready this year than last year. The public took us by surprise in 2023. There were more than 10,000 visitors over two days and the average age was 35. It was really people who were in the early days of understanding what watches (and the hobby of collecting watches) is about. You have to invest in (improving and raising the) knowledge of the audience, and it doesn't matter if they will not buy immediately. At least they grow their interest and they get to touch and feel the products; (the fair) becomes their introduction to the brands.
This speaks to something we discussed previously – all the new people are drawn to watchmaking. How does Parmigiani Fleurier speak to this group, while balancing the needs of the established collectors?
Well, it's quite natural; I think you have to adapt...to customise your talking points. (If someone already knows the brand story) you can skip this and directly go on to a subject that is specific and deeper. It all depends on who you have in front of you. So usually people go shopping in a physical store to be educated, because they have been introduced to the watch or the brand when they saw it on the wrist of a friend, or they read about it. There is a sort of research that the customer does – especially when going up in price (of any given watch), you are often going deeper into watchmaking content. Of course, not everybody is a watch lover. A lot of people are just buying the watch for the hype or because it's cool...they like the aesthetics. What drives people is personal, you know, so the brand has to relate to the audience individually.
”A collector or watch lover likes to browse and compare; he likes to be advised by somebody who knows more than him”
So, we know how a brand would work this on the ground, in its own environment. Parmigiani Fleurier works with many partners though and is most visible in a multi-brand setting. What is your approach here?
I think Parmigiani Fleurier is clearly attractive to somebody who is well-educated in watchmaking and who usually prefers to shop in multi-brand environments. This is because a collector or a watch lover likes to browse and likes to compare; he likes to be advised by somebody who knows more than him.
And when you go into a mono-brand store, the staff there know a lot about their own brand, but they lose track of what is happening outside. So, you have an experience which is one-to- one on the brand, but you cannot compare. I know this from my experience with my previous company (Bulgari, where Terreni was in charge of watchmaking – Ed). The advisor who works in a professional multi-brand retailer is more of a neutral consultant who builds a relationship with a collector, and advises him on what works (or could work) for him.
Let me give you an example: I was in Germany, in Hamburg, and had dinner with two collectors that were very avid collectors – both wealthy and young. One of them was living in Berlin and I was going to Berlin the next day. I asked him why he drove three hours to have dinner with me instead of meeting me the next day. He told me that he was following his advisor, who had moved from Berlin to Hamburg (after a promotion). So this collector is still served by the same advisor because he trusts him; there is clearly a bond there (and this is what happens at the best multi-brand retailers).
This is why I am so keen to see how the new concept Sincere is doing in KL will go. The SHH space is more of a lounge than a store where you can pass the time, enjoy your hobby, and share your passion with people who are professional. (As a consequence) you do not only see things that are commercial.
And this is your take on the multi-brand retail experience versus what some watch brands are trying to do by creating their own mono-brand stores?
(As mentioned), the multi-brand (retail) advisor becomes a sort of consultant working in the interests of the watch lover (and of course the retailer) and creates a bond based on trust. You know there are so many novelties every year and you cannot navigate this, being concerned with your job, with your family, etcetera. It's not everyone who has the time (and inclination) to study the industry. And so every year, you (the collector) ask your advisor what is new, what is exciting? What do you think would suit me? This you cannot do very well in a mono-brand environment (or even) in a multi-brand one
because you are focused on the commercial standard collections. Again, this is why the SHH is interesting to me. This is the right thing to do for the multi-brand retailer who wants to survive this war because there's a hidden war between brands that are integrating their distribution and multi-brand retailers that are losing certain interesting brands as a consequence. To survive, they have to give a service which is bigger than the single relationship with (certain) brands that they carry.
If I were a multi-brand dealer, I would not do an event with a single brand. I would do an event on micro-rotor watches; I would do an event on chronographs; on calendars; or on the different styles that (are naturally present) in a multi-brand environment. I'm not a multi-brand retailer, so they do what they want, but if I were them this is what I would do!
Parmigiani Fleurier CEO Guido Terreni
Duly noted, and it will be published! Speaking then of micro-rotors and the retail experience, one final question on the Tonda PF. This is a watch that you need to see up close and feel, especially with the knurled bezel and the bracelet being as it is. Superficially, it looks very much like the Tonda GT Sport, but it is very different. The retail experience must be paramount here? And how does the brand go about making sure that fit and feel are excellent?
Well, what you're asking is very smart because it's very difficult to convey the comfort of any given watch with just a picture; to show it to a film. You don't grasp the reality until you put it on your wrist.
And to design a comfortable watch is an art. It's really not easy, and it has a lot to do with the weight (of the watch head, and of the materials used); with the way the watch sits on your wrist. It has a lot to do with the flexibility of the bracelet. All these ingredients have to come together to make an experience which is comfortable and I think the Tonda PF with micro-rotor is the most essential example – this watch started everything and forms the matrix of everything that we are doing. So, on the bracelet we did for the Tonda PF... When you design a bracelet, which is not a totally flexible bracelet but it's a semi-rigid one, basically the designer has to choose an arc. This arc is a statistical curve of the entire population. It's not your wrist; it's not my wrist. OK, so in centimeters, my 17 1/2 wrist is different from yours because my bone structure is different from yours and so on.
And it's not the wrist that has to adapt to the arc of the design; it's the watch that has to adapt. To me, that's why the flexibility of the bracelet is extremely important.
And there's also the preferences of different markets where sometimes people are OK with having the watch sort of sit all the way towards the end of the wrist, and some people insist that no, no, it must sit (snugly) before the (protrusions of) the wrist bones.
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The Conversation: What Makes A Powerful Watch Tick
Patek Philippe turns the story of honourary president Philippe Stern into a literal part of Ref. 1938
Consider for a moment, the watch on your wrist. Since you are reading this magazine, we take it for granted that you must be wearing one, but if you are not, simply think of your daily beater or maybe your most cherished ticker. There is probably a story to this watch, and not merely the marketing one that everyone knows. No, this story is the one only you know about this specific reference you wear because it is tied directly to you. In other words, the story that the brand very publicly tells about the watch has now been augmented into some personal interpretation – consciously or unconsciously – by you.
You might find this somewhat difficult to accept but consider that one watch you have that was passed down to you by your father, or perhaps the one you gifted yourself for some milestone or other. Maybe you even lucked out and “won,” a piece at auction, forever earning you bragging rights... We all have these kinds of stories and they will be very specific, even if this generalisation here belies that. By the same token, you might also have a special story – the sort you can confidently tell at meetings and parties and instantly grab the spotlight with. These are the kinds of rich tales that we seek out in our annual personal watches story earlier in this very section (or the sorts of watches that we imagine would come with a wealth of inherent narrative quality).
Do some stories prove more compelling than others, even if these have very little to do with the virtues of the watches they are tied with? No doubt you have your own stance on this, or you have considered whether a brand’s marketing message aligns with your own expectations and experiences. Having said that, plenty of watches are sold on the merits of narrative thrust, or even the power of a singular brand identity. Not the marketing power of the brand, mind you, but the message itself. Think of the dive watch that serves, at best, a back-up function rather than the brand, which might be the king of luxury sports watches. Or perhaps the aviator’s timepiece that was only used by pilots before proper instruments debuted in the cockpit.
Now, storytelling and mythmaking in watchmaking are popular, if somewhat tricky subjects. They might even be the same subject... The editors of WOW Singapore and WOW Thailand find a wholesome and completely positive angle to it all. Well, very nearly completely at least.
Ashok Soman (AS): And so it is that another year in watchmaking comes to a close, but I am glad that we do not have a history or tradition of doing best-of year-enders. We do these sometimes though, so when you suggested something like this for our conversation, I was sold on it. But then you threw your support behind my idea about stories, myths and legends in watchmaking. Why the change of heart?
Ruckdee Chotjinda (RC): It was sudden and immediate. When I saw this among your topic proposals, I was like, wow, this is great. Storytelling is a subject I would love to explore. We (meaning the collective people, not just the two of us) always say that watches are more emotional products than tools or necessities these days. Stories just sweeten everything then.
AS: Indeed they do! I think there is this understanding amongst contemporary brands that storytelling is important. You know, whereas brands in the 1960s may have been more product-centric – most watch brands did not even use proper names for models till around that time – today everybody embraces the concept of selling around an identity that the brand has. Or perhaps an identity that just one watch family is associated with.
RC: A name can do wonders for a watch. On your point of identity, I can readily think of Monaco. When you say the name to most people, they have an image of the beautiful, coastal, city-state in mind. When you say it to watch people, the picture that comes up is that of a square piece of metal!
AS: It is like a lightbulb went off in someone’s head in Switzerland – what if watches had names rather than reference numbers... In fact, it is great that you bring up Heuer, or TAG Heuer in today’s context, because Jack Heuer was one of those watch executives responsible for the whole ‘names are great’ thing. So, he is one of the original light bulb guys, and he is also the person who moved Heuer into a sort of emotional space by linking the watches with motor racing, and more specifically, racing drivers.
RC: And the effects were long-lasting. I discovered Monaco through one of those racing connections a good three decades later or so. It is not that I had aspirations to become a race car driver, but that storytelling kind of reverberated and brought the watch to my attention at one point in time.
AS: In the era of Jack Heuer, watch brands discovered that they needed a Carrera – the Porsche Carrera to be more precise – and so they went about making it happen. This is also tied into design, of course; do not get me wrong because there is a compelling emotional power behind the Porsche Carrera, or the Eames chair for that matter. But to return to Jack, he also became one of the industry’s first popular leaders, and it is perhaps no accident that his story is so closely tied with that of Heuer, and now TAG Heuer.
RC: Did he also invent the practice of watch placements in movies?
AS: I am not sure who actually pioneered the practice of watch product placements on the silver screen (as it was at that time), but for sure Rolex sort of wins that battle, although that was mainly down to people (directors, producers and prop folks) who felt that characters needed symbolic gear. Actually, the most famous story that we all know in this area belongs to a most inappropriate watch, that also happens to have a name – Rudolph Valentino’s Cartier Tank. It was most definitely not a period- appropriate choice. It was The Son of the Sheik (1926), and Valentino irritated director George Fitzmaurice by insisting on wearing his favourite watch, context be damned! It was not a great movie or anything, but Valentino made it memorable, while also giving us an iconic shot of him wearing the watch alongside Vilma Banky, because he died shortly after, and this was his last film. So, a great story that one cannot make up! Cartier makes lots of hay with this...
TAG Heuer Monaco Chronograph
RC: I remember reading about that now that you bring the name of the movie up. On the contrary, Pierce Brosnan’s Seamaster in his James Bond films was period-appropriate, if somewhat more technologically advanced than anything Omega was making. It was also one of the most successful watch placements in movies if you ask me. And, to link that with our conversation today, it involved a lot of storytelling, albeit a purely fictional one.
AS: Ah yes, Omega and James Bond is one of the great purposeful relationships between cinema and watchmaking, but arguably this brand has something even better: a real story, and one that made an impact on the world – and went beyond our humble little blue dot. Of course, this is the Omega Speedmaster of 1969. No explanation needed there I think!
RC: No. None is needed there at all. The Moonwatch is that kind of story that books can be written about – as indeed there have been. It is an amalgamation of facts, myths, legends...everything. You can essentially add a good vintage hand-winding Speedmaster to your collection and say, ok, I am good and settled for the chronograph department. But this James Bond versus Moonwatch discussion also brings us to the division between storytelling of something that is made up and something that actually happened.
AS: Ironic that it (the original Moonwatch) was a manual-winder, given that it was the same year as the famous introduction of the automatic chronograph. I think people even forget – not seasoned collectors of course – that the original Moonwatch was a manual- winder. That, essentially, is the power of a great story. The advertising message is easy: if the watch is good enough for NASA astronauts, it is good enough for you. But the message people get is more about a feeling – the same feeling we all share when thinking about the great endeavour of putting people into space, of exploring beyond the confines of our world. I think I argued in my chronograph special that no one even really thinks of the Moonwatch as a chronograph – it is just the watch that went to the moon. And now it is even more accessible because you can get the MoonSwatch!
"The irony is that you cannot have a powerful story without a power- ful watch"
RC: Now, that is storytelling about a story, which is also about a story! What kind of Inception have you inflicted on us? Anyway, so you would agree with me that storytelling has an influence on the purchase decisions of most people. Like boomers were easily convinced they needed a Moonwatch, and now millennials may also get that same fire ignited, but through the MoonSwatch? Or are we overreaching?
AS: Yes, perhaps watch brands stumbled into an inception-like moment (but in time rather than in consciousness) with the Moonwatch...and now the MoonSwatch. I think such connections definitely pull people in, and that is why storytelling has become paramount in watchmaking – perhaps even in the negative sense where the watches themselves are besides the point. If one looks at brands that want to sell many hundreds of thousands of watches, powerful stories are, arguably, more important than timekeeping chops. The irony there is that you cannot have a powerful story without a powerful watch, which by the way is also what separates the Rolex Cosmograph Daytona from all other chronographs. It too transcends its origins and complication; the watch is a statement piece that watch lovers everywhere have elevated far above its objective value, and values.
Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch
RC: Powerful stories with powerful watches ... I am inclined to cite the example of one collection: the Van Cleef & Arpels Poetic Complications. I mean, if their Pont des Amoureux watch is not storytelling, I do not know what is. In fact, my Facebook page has just reminded me about two weeks ago that I once posted a wristshot of the Midnight Pont des Amoureux watch in white gold. It is the lesser-known 42mm version in white gold that was designed for men if you recall.
AS: Well, now we are in quite a different space with Poetic Complications! The Pont des Amoureux is a pure story, with mechanical watchmaking simply providing the kinetic power behind it. So here, the watch is merely a delivery mechanism for a story – a theatre if you will – that unfolds upon your wrist. Genius-level stuff! It took a jewellery brand to make this happen, which is odd given that watch brands have been making automata for hundreds of years. I think Van Cleef & Arpels have written themselves into the story of watchmaking with the Poetic Complications. At this level though, it is hard to grasp how successful it is at selling watches. Well, storytelling that you can see on the wrist is definitely a winner, and Van Cleef & Arpels proved it, as you say. It is also hard for brands to replicate this sort of thing, which is also appealing to the brands, from a business standpoint I suppose.
RC: So far we have been talking about storytelling of specific watch models or collections. We need to tackle also the subject of storytelling at the brand level. Most notably, for the longest time, we have classical brands leveraging on their long history, records or inventions, for example. It is, of course, right and appropriate. But what meaningful discussion can we have about this? What would be the most obvious and not so obvious effects that this storytelling might have on potential buyers?
AS: On that note, this is the perfect moment for a certain brand to make an entrance – Patek Philippe. I know, you might expect me to get into the weeds of the Nautilus (and maybe I will later) or my favourite, the Grandmaster Chime, but really it is the Calatrava that draws my attention. And thus, I mean the entire assortment of Patek Philippe; here is a case where the brand makes all the difference. And, it is a difference that is just as visceral as the Moonwatch.
Perhaps Patek Philippe is a character itself, playing its part in a theatrical story about a Geneva family called the Sterns, who happen to make watches – and they are engaged in the business of keeping a storied Geneva name in watchmaking alive. Not only are multiple generations of Sterns in the family business, Patek Philippe itself has made a world where the watch is something to preserve for future generations. A true legacy product, in other words. It is definitely not an accident that Patek Philippe also happens to have the most famous and impactful watch advertising of all time, arguably, in the form of the Generations campaign. You never really own a Patek Philippe.... Gives me chills just thinking of it. Truly genius-level stuff.
RC: The whole arrangement is very compelling indeed. The message and the visuals did make a lasting impression, and in such a way that most people can relate to, whether or not they will actually get to own a Patek Philippe in this lifetime. I have a couple of Patek Philippe references that I would love to add to my collection at some point, but they may not be attainable as long as I continue to work as a starving writer (as one of my associates likes to call herself).
AS: It might be that just the dream of owning a Patek Philippe could be transferable – as in your kids could try to get that reference 6104 that you missed, or something like this. These days, Patek Philippe is so successful that you could insert any reference you want here because it might be impossible to get anything. This is the opposite of instant gratification, and likely something every watch brand out there would give both arms (and maybe a leg) to have. By the way, I would argue that we may want for less if we just spent a little less on our favourite hobby, but I digress.
RC: That situation where demand far exceeds supply is not limited to traditional houses such as Patek Philippe. About three months ago, I had an interview with Max Busser when he was in Bangkok for the 15th anniversary of PMT The Hour Glass. At one point, he said he knew to gratify long-time customers who have supported him with allocations, but then MB&F had to leave something for newcomers to enjoy as well. Now, Max is a great storyteller himself, and I am using the term in the sense of admiration certainly.
AS: Max Busser has succeeded in turning his childhood obsessions into objects of serious horological desirability! In a way, his brand is himself, but not just his persona or personality, but literally his own memories and experiences...which he has skilfully crafted into various timekeeping objects that also resonate with other humans. What was the tagline that MB&F used?
RC: I checked just now: “A creative adult is a child who survived”. Maybe we did not survive. We are not creative enough 😀
AS: That’s the one! Well, I failed to get the MAD watch yet again so...
RC: Ahh ... Sorry about that. I have not tried my luck myself. I have handled the first one once in Geneva in 2022. It was a fun watch to have on the wrist. And during that visit, I was told about the next level of storytelling which went beyond the creations and touched upon the site where they are created: their new MAD House!
Van Cleef & Arpels Poetic Complications Pont des Amoureux
AS: I visited the MAD House after Watches and Wonders Geneva this year. The flavour of this manufacture visit was indeed quite different. But really, they could have any space they wanted, as long as they have Max! But you know, in terms of just what is on the wrist, I think it is simply about looking for the time and finding something that makes you smile. A beautiful dream. What is that experience worth? What price can you put on a dream? MB&F is not alone in asking that question; a number of other creators come to mind, not least of all Urwerk, but also classical stuff such as Rexhep Rexhepi’s Akrivia, or Laurent Ferrier. Funnily, a couple of those names have a Patek Philippe connection...
RC: I can see very clearly what you mean. Yes, they may be (relatively) new to the industry, but they are also storied, in their own way. And their story does add to the appeal, at least for me. Without the story, an MB&F or an Urwerk may be incomprehensible, regardless of the efforts that go into designing and making one. And, without the story, a Rexhep Rexhepi or a Laurent Ferrier may not stand out from the rest of the market, regardless of their craftsmanship.
AS: Once again, I think, we find an Inception level moment here! Rexhep is a really young guy, yet his story is so compelling to many collectors – certainly far more than his production could ever keep up with. The details of Rechep’s story, strangely, might not be important – I imagine that many do not know it, at least at first – but once you learn about them, they raise the profile of any given watch that he makes. Plenty of watchmakers can say this, of course, but most have not made as much of it as Rexhep.
RC: Well, what can we say, watches are emotional products, right? And people are emotional beings. We probably feed on this romanticism like when the more avant-garde timepieces of MB&F or the more surrealistic creations of Van Cleef & Arpels give us a sense of escapism. In the case of Rexhep, he is very fortunate in that Switzerland has treated him well as a new home, and I am very happy for his success.
AS: We can certainly hope that all this success leads to more success, but for others too. Just as Patek Philippe’s success leads to success for other brands too. This is the sort of virtuous cycle that just makes me want a Patek Philippe even more! I guess I marketed myself into it! Thank goodness Patek Philippe continues to advertise, even though they probably have no need to...
RC: I am impressed at the level you can connect the dots and turn that into purchase justification. I mean, I do it too, but usually it is more direct and not as collateral.
AS: And you know, dear readers, that Ruckdee and I write this story together, live. It all just comes together so you are witnessing the act of me convincing myself of something I had already convinced myself of. How is that for the power of storytelling in watchmaking?
Urwerk UR-120 Lost in Black Space
RC: Ha ha. You should win a medal right there. But before we take too many pages, allow me to ask you a very important question. What do you think of brands that are created on the basis of historical figures, but do not have a direct link to the original company? I am thinking particularly of Louis Moinet here because I admire the level of storytelling. And I bring it up because it is very pertinent to our topic of discussion today.
AS: To me, the tale of Louis Moinet is inextricably linked with that of Jean-Marie Schaller. Schaller is the man who founded and runs the Louis Moinet watchmaking brand, but he is certainly not a descendant of Moinet! Yet somehow, he was drawn to this then-unknown watchmaker, to the point that he took a chance on an auction lot (written by the great Arnaud Tellier) in 2013... The rest is history now, but Schaller could easily have missed his shot at the Comptoir pocket watch, and indeed nearly did. As a matter of weird fact for this story, the other party bidding on that lot was none other than a certain Geneva brand with a famous museum in that city, and Tellier is perhaps best known for his work at the Patek Philippe Museum.
RC: Oh, I did not know that bit about the other bidding party. That is interesting.
AS: Schaller told me that himself recently, and I just caught up with Tellier at the Singapore Watch Fair, just to tell him that Schaller and I were just talking about him.
RC: I think what Schaller is doing with Louis Moinet is not very different from what Pascal Raffy is doing with Bovet. The stories are artfully woven into the respective brands. The key difference may lie in the fact that the original Louis Moinet was long gone and now re-established through research and acquisition of the right to use the name, whereas the right to the Bovet name was more or less passed from one hand to another through acquisition until it landed with the current owner.
AS: Bovet is not a brand I find a lot of opportunity to discuss so thanks for bringing it up. In the old days of the original Bovet name, watchmakers survived and thrived based on patronage. Just think of the mighty Abraham-Louis Breguet and the fact that he was as popular with the Capet dynasty as well as Napoleon.
Anyway, Bovet today is a passion project of Raffy’s, and it shows in the form of contemporary watches. In a way, Raffy’s interest sustains that enterprise, and enables the brand to find a second life; that is clearly similar to what Schaller is doing with Louis Moinet. In other words, neither of these gentlemen are just in it for the money, yet they are just as responsible for certain dreams of watchmaking as Max Busser is. Maybe it is best to find a contrast here, like Jean-Claude Biver with Blancpain and Hublot; both brands are owned by groups now, but the power of these brands is clearly much more than just any one group or owner.
Just for fun, let me add Ferdinand Berthoud here because the contemporary watches owe their existence to the passion of Karl- Friedrich Scheufele and status of Berthoud, with Chopard remaining in the background. To be clear, I mean to say here that the stories of these brands go beyond founders or owners (past and present); the involvement of watchmaking conglomerates does not matter. So, the shadow of legacy falls over us once again.
RC: I suddenly think of Bruno Belamich and Carlos Rosillo of Bell & Ross.
"One might view storytelling about watches the way one feels about watching a movie - it is good if it is entertaining"
AS: Bell & Ross is a brand that I do find a lot of opportunities to discuss, and it certainly gives us a lot of talking points! These guys captivated the public with a design, so I come back to that Eames chair I guess, but added a tonne of narrative too. As early as the launch of the brand, they already had a collection called Heritage, which was very forward-thinking and bold for a new brand. On the other hand, this gives us the chance to address the spectre of mythmaking in watchmaking, which is the idea that contemporary branding is all about marketing stories. Bell & Ross, whose independence is beyond question, guaranteed as it is by Chanel, is certainly a savvy marketing force.
RC: I should add also that they always had impactful visuals to amplify their stories. I remember complimenting them more than once on their relevant and tasteful photographs, whether the campaign was more technical-oriented or a fashion-forward one.
AS: Bell & Ross visuals are impressive, as anyone with eyes will agree, but it also feeds into the marketing narrative. So, to put it out there, the flipside of storytelling is that collectors and enthusiasts will accuse brands of just making up stuff to sell products. This applies to brands both new and heritage. The lines between fantasy, myth and legacy are sacrosanct to some, or perhaps I should say many.
Bovet Orbis Mundi
RC: Well, I would not say that they are totally wrong, but I should view this storytelling as a means of entertainment, for the lack of a better word (I will have to consult the dictionary for the meaning of sacrosanct, by the way).
This may be a stretch of a comparison, but for me it is not totally unlike when you go to a movie. You pay for something you already know is made up or imagined. Those stories or those visuals may serve to bring a watch to my attention, and then it is up to me to decide if the actual product is worth the money being asked, if it fits with my collecting criteria or if it serves a purpose in my daily life. I was inclined to buy a Luminox a few months ago because they had a nice one out with a titanium bezel contrasting against the Carbonox case. I would have used it as my go-anywhere, do-anything watch. But, no, I do not have any illusion of becoming a Navy SEAL when I strap the watch on, for example.
AS: In that sense, what you want in a watch is a good story, and Bell & Ross certainly delivers. The brand’s most famous pilot’s watches are all the evidence required there. To me, it matters if any given brand is motivated by a certain spirit, and the watches are representative of that spirit. The opposite are those brands that make clear tributes (or copies, if you are feeling less than polite) because that is a pure cash- grab that trades on the willing-seller willing- buyer mentality.
RC: Well, yeah, the tributes can be a grey area sometimes. To me, there is nothing wrong with corresponding to a genre, but certain specific details that remind a person too much of an established brand should be avoided. I am talking about some fonts, some markers, you know. But as you say, there are willing buyers, so...
AS: It can get confusing to even experienced collectors when a brand presents historical notes no one ever heard of, leading to accusations that said history is made up, with the sole purpose of tricking people into buying. This one is not limited to new brands or anything - the contemporary A. Lange & Söhne brand is not the A. Lange & Söhne of old, and neither is anything that emerges from Glashütte today. I would argue that most of those brands are trying to be true to the spirit of watchmaking in that region, or the specific history of one name or other. I mean, it is not like Glashütte watchmaking was the equivalent of gold in the old days. On the other hand, nobody is trying to revive the Lepine name and connect that with the famous old watchmaker – this would be the sort of mythmaking that reasonable minds could agree is a bit shady.
RC: Well, we do have the revival of Ferdinand Berthoud that you mentioned, which seems so far respected by the industry, including yourself?
AS: Or Louis Moinet, if Moinet had been famous, which he was not. Ferdinand Berthoud has the good fortune of being in a similar place as some other brands we noted, specifically Bovet, in that it is owned and run by Karl-Friedrich Scheufele as a passion project. The Scheufele family is, of course, famous for being behind Chopard (as alluded to earlier) so I think this keeps Ferdinand Berthoud safe; the fact that the watches are amazing also helps! By the way, it should be noted that Ferdinand Berthoud is a Fleurier band, same as Bovet, and this is because the watchmaker himself was born there, even though he was mostly known as a French watchmaker. It is rather like Abraham-Louis Breguet in that sense.
RC: So where does that leave us? That storytelling is a needed marketing tool that can make a life-changing difference for a watch or a brand when properly and beautifully executed?
AS: These days there are simply too many stories to keep track of! Brands would do well to remember that less is more, sometimes – credit where credit is due, Ferdinand Berthoud seems to be a big believer in that philosophy. Brands do try very hard to make some stories a reality – most recently seen in all the sustainability claims being bandied about – but such stories must have a measure of reality or be in good faith to be easily accepted by watch buyers. A useful example is that of the Rolex Explorer, which people genuinely forget was not the Everest-topper itself. I have to remind myself sometimes that the model was made as a tribute to the act of summiting Everest, even though it was not the Rolex model that made it to the top of the world.
Bell & Ross BR 03 Black Matte
RC: Yes, I understand what you are saying. And, yes, I think a lot of people did not have this fact clearly in mind generally. I mean, I also had the same misunderstanding for some years when I first became interested in watches. The clarity you mentioned did not come to me until some time afterwards. Maybe the storytelling by Rolex visuals was too effective? Anyway, it served a purpose for the brand, and it was indeed inspirational for the potential buyers. It certainly has more gravity than the story (more or less a joke) I like to tell people of an impulse purchase of mine in late 2019.
It was a watch I wanted but did not need – not that any watch is truly needed, of course. The story would go like this, “Baht was strong. I was weak. And I was also alone in Paris.” The manufacture had their story for the design or creation of that watch, of course. But it is my version that I used more often, and it made people laugh (and also think that I am rich). So, this is storytelling at a personal level, not at the brand level.
AS: Well ultimately, the stories we tell about the watches we own are the most relevant ones, even if they are not always the most interesting.
RC: Hmmm ... I didn’t see that coming. You are spot on! AS: It also speaks to perhaps my final reason for wanting to make storytelling the subject of our conversation this time.
RC: Ok. What is that?
AS: To recap some of our other discussions, there is the subject of so-called investment watches, which is something we could return to discussing all the time. It is a rich area, perhaps because it is fundamentally ridiculous. Then again, I found myself wondering if a watch might ever be worth more than the sticker price, especially if said watch was worn and had visible signs of wear.
RC: You mean, as in worn by a famous actor or celebrity, thereby improving the provenance of the watch?
AS: Very astute of you, yes. The Paul Newman effect, in other words, except not for a Daytona with (what we now call) the Paul Newman dial, but an actual watch that the actor Paul Newman wore. Obviously, we have one very real auction result of just such a watch (and a recent cautionary tale that is still unfolding, involving the Marlon Brando Rolex GMT-Master). In the case of the Daytona, the fact that it was Newman’s property and he wore it, and owned it for reasons specific to himself (and the fact that he was who he was), all contribute to the now-famous price paid. Of course, you might say that the watch also fetched a record price because of all the hype that it generated, which helped to sell many other Newman Daytona watches. That is true.
Zenith Chronomaster Revival Manufacture Edition
RC: This proves once again the effects of storytelling, but this time by the watch-collecting communities and the auction houses, not the brands themselves.
AS: Thus I thought about whether we would pay for the story of a specific watch – like the story of your Paris “weakness,” for example. The hypothetical auction lot listing would make that point, enshrining your previously personal story into something rather more... well, just more. The watch of renowned Thai watch journalist and WOW Thailand editor, which he acquired in Paris after a fortuitous encounter with the Forex market... Anyway, you get the idea because the above hypothetical is clearly a sales pitch, even if it is true. Any prospective buyer would have to assess that story, independent of anything they objectively know about the watch (the specifications and so on) and the story the brand tells about it.
RC: I had the pleasure of doing that “story” assessment earlier this year when I was at Zenith and they had the Chronomaster Revival Manufacture Edition watch available. It is that watch you can buy only if you visit the manufacture, that I mentioned in my story about the same for the WOW Singapore Legacy issue. I knew about the Manufacture Edition from long before and secretly thought about buying one. This is the watch with a special dial that comes with a story of prototype dials being discovered in the famous attic [in case you missed the grand tours of the Legacy issue – Ed]. The story was solid enough for me, but the gods of Forex did not smile upon me this time round. Maybe next year.
AS: Right, and if you buy that watch, then the story of how you came to want that watch would enter into it. But it is important that it is your story, just as much as it is your watch. You wear it, and maybe even feature it (certainly on social media but perhaps in print as well) or have it written about by some other publication (or collector/influencer – insert story contributor here). All this adds to the story of that specific watch – maybe you even give it a nickname that enters wide usage. Such a watch would have some extra value that you, the owner, have added. To me, that might be worth more than the sticker price. What say you?
RC: I think you need some kind of stardom to attract that kind of extra value?
"In the end, the best watch is the one you bought, out of all the ones you could have bought...or perhaps it is the one you missed"
AS: But then again, there is nothing special about the collector Henry Graves right? He was just a wealthy banker, and not even especially wealthy. The watch, on the other hand, is so famous I do not even need to name the brand that made it. So, let us say, a collector who happens to be deep into one brand...so deep he not only knows the management but also some of the watchmakers and machine operators. He might say, casually, to the CEO of the brand that he would love a certain style of dial, with specific hands, to go with favourite complication. Now, the CEO knows that his brand has nothing like this, but he decides to have one made for his favourite customer. And now, you have a very special piece for a very special person, who is otherwise quite ordinary to the world at large.
RC: That is true about Henry Graves. And I see what you mean regarding VIP client requests. Perhaps, this is how the owner of the now-famous OAK collection got some of the pieces that were showcased in London last year. Many of the pieces were created especially for him in the very fashion you described!
AS: Exactly right, and I certainly knew nothing about the owner of the OAK collection before he began to seek press coverage. Whether he sought that coverage or not though, his pieces would be valuable just on the strength of his personal stories with them. That is to say, each one would be of value to him, and possibly to any given observer. Now, this is all a very roundabout way of saying that our readers are, in fact, adding value to their own watches. It may not be monetary value, but if you like your watch enough, it ends up being worth a lot more than what you paid. Sort of the story of every Patek Philippe watch, I suppose! The only reliable way for it to be worth anything is for you to forget about its cash value. In the end, everything is about the legacy concept, which is what gives the Patek Philippe marketing campaign (it certainly is a marketing campaign) its power.
Louis Moinet Cosmopolis
RC: Well, thank you then for the idea to write a story about stories that totally make up a larger and even more meaningful story. I think we have provoked some thoughts among our readers and completed an article that is much more worthwhile than a round-up of the year’s best watches (in our opinion).
AS: In the end, the best watch of the year is the one you bought, out of all the ones you could have bought. Or perhaps it is the one you missed... This personal aspect is what I love about this hobby.
RC: And that’s a wrap! I am glad we had a chance to put all of these in writing. And I should let you go prepare for your trip now. Will be following your WOW SG Instagram for postcards from Sardinia!
AS: Onwards to the new watches of 2024! And yes, Sardinia beckons.
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Traditional Watchmaking Gets Galvanised By Gemstones and Gold
Rolex gemmologist checks the quality of diamonds
Luxury is a fast-changing industry. Luxury watchmaking, not so much. Hampered by tradition, classicism, and, more often than not, a lack of vision, it tends to be set in its ways. One of those 'ways' is to consider that gem-set watches are a) for women, b) for the bling-loving crowd of hip-hop entertainment, or c) for wealthy clients from the Gulf region with no watchmaking savvy. Yes, there is prejudice and snobbery afoot where gem-set timepieces are concerned, as alluded to in the Unusual Suspects companion piece to this story. The truth is that mechanical timepieces with abundant gem-setting skills on display are in high demand, especially those whose sizes and styles make them compatible with the tastes of men. Yes, men. Cue shock and outrage.
Just the other day, I was invited to a high-brow cultural event in my hometown of Paris, in a posh setting, by a brand whose approach is very conservative. A senior member of staff, young but far from having a penchant for what might be considered the thug life (cringeworthy though such thoughts might be), confessed an amazing fact to me: his dream watch is one of their most famous references...with a rainbow bezel.
Patek Philippe Ref. 5711/1300A (discontinued)
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That only went to confirm what I have grown to see and understand about this specific segment. Perfectly legitimate complicated timepieces (mechanical of course) elevated with a large number of gems are increasingly popular, with an increasingly large population. This audience is more diverse in gender, age, origin and regards for watchmaking classics than one might think. But there is a certain style involved, along with a certain prestige associated with the baguette cut. Round gems generally do not qualify. Oddly enough, the name of the game is not going overboard. Setting a bezel is just right. Using baguettes as indices on the dial is spot on. Extending said baguettes to the entire dial is already on the daring side. Pushing it to slather the whole case seems very polarising. Going full-bracelet-and-lugs-plus-everything-with-a-surface on top of any of the options above puts a watch in a more difficult position, both in terms of style, perception and of course, logically, price.
More Expensive
For an excellent case in point, one just needs to take a look at Patek Philippe's growing number of gem-set references. This should serve to underscore the point that there is considerable interest in the matter from even the most traditional brands. Something obviously shifted when the Genevan brand acquired Salanitro, the city's largest gem-setting specialist for watches. It was even more obvious when Patek Philippe released the platinum-cased, ruby-bezeled perpetual calendar chronograph Ref. 5271P in 2022. Seeing how Ref. 5271P represents a 60 percent price increase on plain vanilla Ref. 5270P, it leaves little to the imagination as to why the firm chose to add 5.25 carats of baguette rubies. That premium might be characterised as exorbitant or is it conservative? Whatever the case (no pun intended), the buying public is unfazed. The watch can still double your money, and then some, on the secondary market, should one choose to go that way. This very high premium put on the upper crust of gem-encrusted timepieces seems a reasonable explanation for the emergence of such plush pieces. Such watches, as this story presents it, includes the slew of 41mm Audemars Piguet Royal Oaks bedecked with baguette diamonds and sapphires the brand has recently unleashed.
Jacob & Co. Timeless Treasure
More Complex
For a long time, it was considered easy – too easy really – for brands to just add gems on a bezel to make a quick buck and sell it to whomever. The fact of the matter though is that high-end gem-setting is another kettle of fish entirely. Any sort of setting that stops at round diamonds of small size is indeed nothing special, with the exception of snow setting of course but we digress. There are machines that have become very good at this sort of prosaic work, which is hardly discussed at all and what we will say about this is that you should consider what role machines play in setting gems as prominently as you consider the role of machines in movement finishing.
Back on point then, the more exclusive gem-setting approach relies on a different type of cut and a much more elaborate kind of setting technique. It uses baguette-cut gems, which demands roughs that are better, larger and suffer a larger loss of weight during the cutting stage. They lend themselves perfectly to invisible setting, which is widely used for this type of adornment. It is the most demanding of all techniques. It requires the gem-setter cut two grooves along the longest sides of the baguette gemstone. That groove will help snap the gem in place in a purpose-crafted bezel, or dial, or caseband. This results in a tight arrangement of rectangles, with virtually no gaps between them and no prongs to be seen; the gems are shown unobstructed and in all their glory. The last and perhaps most important part of this process is the following: setting a closed part of a watch such as the bezel, which admits almost no light in, demands only the very best – that means the clearest and purest gems.
Hublot Big Bang Integrated King Gold Rainbow
More Desirable
Fortunately, the tastes of watch lovers are evolving. Under the pressure of, one must admit,hip-hop aesthetics going mainstream and infusing all segments of luxury; entertainment icons becoming billionaires and increasing their role as trendsetters; and the worldwide enrichment of the 0.01 percent, it has become a sign of taste, wealth and access to wearing a rose gold Daytona with 47 multicolored baguette-cut sapphires. Perhaps not coincidentally, these are the most expensive of all Rolexes on offer on the popular Chrono24 platform; yes, the pricing here makes for a far-from-perfect example but it does serve to illustrate a point.
For the life of you, do not mention a diamond-set platinum Rolex to a fanatic; he might immediately have a stroke. The brand is discreetly making unique and very rare pieces for high-six-figure sums, which it calls 'off-catalogue'. These watches do not appear in the brand's official communication, but are available, although in very small quantities; by available, we mean that they are made and sold, not that you could get lucky and just find one. These watches are nicknamed by the letters at the end of their reference number such as SARU or SABR, with the latter sometimes dubbed Aurora Borealis. If one is to believe the incredible premium these pieces command on the secondary market, a gem-set Rolex is the hottest thing out there. To this surprising fact, there is a historical explanation to consider. Geneva, however Calvinist and sometimes rigid in its approach to spending and ostentation, has been a major caterer of overt luxury in watches for more than two centuries. It is only logical that Patek Philippe and Rolex see an opportunity and seize it; it is culturally obvious for them.
Setting the case of the Jacob & Co. Timeless Treasure
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There were early signs of this phenomenon. The rainbow bezel craze of the late 2010s was intense and widespread. Every brand had to have one on their roster, as we noted in the Unusual Suspects. Do not be fooled by their relative disappearance from watch-related news; they are still very much in demand. One needs only take a look at the steady stream of Hublot novelties for confirmation, and that Rainbow model without any gems at all a couple of years ago that we love. There, I must render unto Caesar and all that. Because 15 years ago, Hublot’s Million Dollar Big Bangs and subsequent fully diamond-clad timepieces opened up a new realm within watchmaking – hyper luxury, hyper pricing, and hyper carat weight. Such attempts had been made previously, but the watches failed to sell and were scrapped for parts. Then in 2015, Jacob & Co. released its USD 18-million Billionaire, complete with 260 carats of emerald-cut white diamonds, actually sold it, and then started making an entire collection based on that concept. The process culminated recently in its USD 20-million Timeless Treasure, entirely made of 216 carats of Asscher-cut yellow diamonds; the Asscher-cut is one of the most challenging in the world of jewellery, making the baguette-cut seem like child’s play.
More Extensive
Indeed, Jacob & Co.'s juggernaut success is another case in point. The brand confessed to me to not being able to keep up with demand for any of its full-set watches. The NYC-based brand excels at creating 20-, 30-, 40-carat timepieces, where it pairs coloured gems with tourbillons, automata, minute repeaters, music boxes and the entire array of their singular mechanics. The fact is they seem to be selling them in the USA, in Europe, in Dubai, in Singapore as well as in all of Southeast Asia. This type of product is integral to the brand’s identity since it comes from the world of high jewelery, and further from the brand’s signature combination of the same with inventive complications. The strategy is bearing fruit as the watches have met with the aforementioned positive response all over the world. So strong a fact is this that Jacob & Co are about to double down on the coloured-gem Billionaire thing, as a 2023 catalogue entry seemed to suggest; the fully-set piece is about to arrive with 100+ carats of rubies and emeralds.
Vacheron Constantin Les Cabinotiers Grisaille High Jewellery - Dragon
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On the opposite end of the spectrum, Vacheron Constantin is regularly releasing high-complication pieces from their Les Cabinotiers line with baguette-cut diamonds on the bezel, such as Les Cabinotiers Grisaille High Jewellery Dragon (which we missed in print but made a special note on in our coverage on Luxuo – Ed). These pieces are not merely bespoke; they are unique pieces made with a specific sort of clientèle in mind, and they are not meant as showroom pieces only. Lower on the scale of exclusivity, the Overseas has also benefited from a baguette enhancement on its tourbillon iteration. Overall, there is a constantly growing number of pieces offered from a variety of brands. They show that elegance is a more flexible term than we sometimes like to think. And it so happens that Singapore, amongst the most high watchmaking-savvy markets in the world, is in love with these pieces.
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What Sustainability at Watches and Wonders Geneva 2024 Really Looked Like
TAG Heuer's use of synthetic diamonds in the Carrera Plasma Tourbillon Nanograph
Wherefore sustainability. After more than half a dozen stories about all the watchmaking news that is fit to print since Watches and Wonders Geneva opened last week, you might be wondering why we have not spared a single word for sustainability. WOW Singapore and this website did, after all, publish a massive story on this very subject barely a couple of years ago. It is not like the world has magically resolved the challenge facing our planet in that time.
Zenith Defy Extreme Diver
Well, we can report after seeing novelties from a majority of the majors at the Geneva fair, and speaking with numerous brand representatives (including no less than five CEO interviews), that even the word ‘sustainability’ was barely used. So, Zenith has a recycled fishing net fabric strap that comes with two other options for the particularly handsome new Defy Extreme Diver. That is hardly a fitting anchor for the sustainability pitch, even if this watch is the only one we can think of that comes with three straps as a standard.
Panerai Submersible eLAB-ID
Think of the big names in the sustainability game: IWC, Panerai and Cartier, to name just three. Well, Panerai continues to make hay with its recycled materials but there is not even one new watch in this area. IWC has scrapped its annual sustainability report, opting to fold this into the parent group’s ESG initiative. As for Cartier, while no new timepieces are on the sustainability track, the brand has not been quiet. For some context here, all the abovementioned brands are part of the Richemont group and this same group is very active on the DEI front. Sustainability, diversity, equity and inclusiveness all ride together on the ESG front, even if that might seem a little arbitrary.
IWC scraps its annual sustainability report
Watches and Wonders Geneva was the scene for a panel discussion featuring the industry’s most prominent ESG initiative, the Watch & Jewellery Initiative 2030 (WJI 2030). It was a C-Suite panel that included President and CEO of Cartier Cyrille Vigneron and CEO of Chanel Watches and Jewellery Frédéric Grangié, among others. The second annual Stakeholder Report – Report on Progress 2023-2024 revealed that 48 percent of WJI 2030 members and partners meet the minimum “commitment on Climate Resilience to sign and submit the Science Based Targets Initiative commitment letter.” Meanwhile, just 29 percent meet "the minimum commitment on Preserving Resources to set up a roadmap for nature for their company commensurate to their level of ambition and capabilities."
President and CEO of Cartier Cyrille Vigneron (image courtesy of Getty)
Any reasonable observer might be dismayed by this, but Vigneron sounded a hopeful note, given that WJI 2030 members are doing much better on the gender equality, living wages, and human rights fronts (89 percent, 83 percent and 79 percent, respectively). “No one has the power to change everything alone. Together we have a chance. We must not be discouraged by current setbacks. It just means we need to work harder and keep moving forward,” said Vigneron.
Visitors at World of Watches Geneva
At this point, it is worth considering reality here because watch and jewellery firms are in the business of making and selling watches and jewellery. Deloitte’s Swiss Watch Industry Study notes that just 48 percent of watch buyers reported that sustainability was a leading factor behind the purchase of a luxury watch. Furthermore, the same report notes that sustainability ranked fourth amongst the top reasons for buying a watch, the other three being brand image, design and price. This editor finds this rather optimistic as he has yet to meet anyone who has bought a watch even partly because of its sustainability credentials. We would all prefer that the watches be made without harm coming to anyone, but that is more of a baseline than anything else.
Richemont Group headquarters in Bellevue, Switzerland
The big winners over the last 10 years in watchmaking have made the least amount of noise on the transparency of their operations. By way of contrast, Richemont brands are on the back foot, as are virtually all groups, regardless of their sustainability credentials. This probably means that brands ought to focus on what helps them sell more watches, to at least stay on pace with the market. On the other hand, no brand has abandoned its sustainable practices or ceased production on relevant collections – recycled steel and titanium are still in the picture and so are recycled plastic straps. No doubt the year will reveal more about how brands intend to address the cleanliness of their precious metal and gemstone supply chains because this is a developing trend shaping the sharp end of fine watchmaking. One fascinating story playing out is that of lab-grown diamonds at TAG Heuer, which has implications for the entire watchmaking trade (although probably not jewellery).
Watches and Wonders Geneva Showcased the Evergreen Appeal of Gold
Watches tell us about the present or the past; the future is generally out of reach, except at a fair like the recently concluded Watches and Wonders Geneva. You might have caught some of our favourites and highlights over the last week, and probably caught up on all the news wherever you get your horological fix. So, what does it all say about the year of watchmaking that is to come? In 2024, the answer is simple: high-value precious metal models.
Patek Philippe’s Golden Ellipse new design
Gold is king at Watches and Wonders Geneva 2024 and here we will risk repeating ourselves because Rolex and Patek Philippe distinguished themselves with a significant majority of novelties in the precious stuff. If one adds platinum into the mix, then precious metals dominate. The dominant market force and the most prominent prestige player have but one new stainless steel model between them. We would never have imagined typing that sentence before the fair started and it still feels unbelievable. And yet it is merely a fact. Make no mistake though, it is still the era of sports elegance but perhaps we can call this sports elegance elevated (SEE).
The red gold TAG Heuer Skipper
This is not only about the red gold TAG Heuer Skipper, the full gold Tudor Black Bay 58 and the Bell & Ross BR 05 Chrono Grey Steel and Gold but also the all-gold Parmigiani Fleurier Toric where dials and calibres are also in gold. We could go on and list more, and we will. Both of the novelties at A. Lange & Sohne are in precious metals and so is the sole Ulysse Nardin Freak S Nomad, obviously. At IWC, the entire new Portogieser Horizon Blue variant is only in white gold while the new Duometre watches at Jaeger-LeCoultre are exclusively in gold, except the stainless steel Quatieme Lunaire. Needless to say, the Piaget Polo 79 is a big old gold brick, while the majority of Cartier’s 66 novelties this year are in precious metals, and that goes up to 100 percent at Van Cleef & Arpels.
Jaeger-LeCoultre Duometre Chronograph Moon
If your first thought in hearing all this is that things are going to get expensive, you are of course correct. It is not a response to increasing wealth in the world. You might have noticed from recent news reports on Swiss watchmaking exports that matters are hardly looking up. Quite the opposite. It may be though that demand for the most expensive sorts of watches is more resilient (as history demonstrates), so the appeal for watchmakers is clear. In addition, margins are better in the precious metals game (though not necessarily in complications but that is another matter) and companies such as Rolex and Patek Philippe want to reward their retail partners. A few that we spoke with agreed.
Bell & Ross BR 05 Chrono Grey Steel and Gold
To be sure, this is one interpretation of the novelties of 2024 but we feel confident that it is a very obvious one. It is also of obvious concern for collectors and enthusiasts, who have been primarily interested in steel watches – it is downright ominous for fans of bronze and other novelty materials. Rolex did not even introduce more models in titanium but maybe it will dedicate an entire year for this, just as it did with precious metals in 2024.
The Debut of Rolex's Oyster Perpetual GMT-Master II
As always, Rolex leads our coverage of Watches and Wonders Geneva and the brand makes it easy to understand what it thinks is most newsworthy: the Oyster Perpetual GMT-Master II. Basically, what is new here is the first new bezel variant since 2022’s Lefty. The 2024 Oyster Perpetual GMT-Master II maintains the traditional crown position but introduces an unusual but somewhat cool colour combination: black and grey. This completely new look is paired with a green GMT hand, just like the one on the 2022 Lefty. Despite the relatively low-key nature of this model, it is perhaps one of the most surprising of the current slew of new watches.
It is important at this moment to address some ancillary facts about the GMT-Master II collection. This includes the fact that no current models have been discontinued, despite the much-hyped rumours about certain popular models. Instead, the 2024 GMT-Master II simply adds to the number of variants currently available, bringing it to reportedly 14. That includes the Oyster and Jubilee bracelet versions of the new black and grey model; the watch needs a nickname but the Internet has not yet responded (that we know of, although we like Grey Ghost). To reiterate, the new GMT-Master II is unchanged in every way from its existing siblings.
In a funny twist, the 2024 GMT-Master II might just be the most accessible offering from Rolex, with most of the current crop of novelties leaning towards precious metals, elaborate dials and luscious gem-setting. At the same time, those who love the world’s most popular GMT watch might be wondering what this means for their dreams of owning some version of it; they will also wonder why the coke bezel remains out of picture, despite Tudor introducing it for its GMT model. Your guess is as good as mine on these subjects but I will say that perhaps the Grey Ghost is a cooling measure of some kind. Or perhaps it is meant to appeal to fans of the short-lived solid black bezel GMT-Master II. More on this watch will certainly follow from experts and specialists in the coming months.
Patek Philippe's Ref. 5738/1R-001 Goes For Gold With New Bracelet
Patek Philippe's Golden Ellipse new design
Sometimes, a watch just needs to get made to be an unqualified success but this is not the case with Ref. 5738/1R-001. Although a staple at Patek Philippe, the watch earned its place in the collection without the benefit of any sort of trend. Indeed, the original Golden Ellipse and all subsequent editions with bracelets had a bit of a wearability issue. The bracelet was a pure piece of jewellery, like a bangle, and could not be easily resized. This necessarily limited the potential of the watch, and made the leather strap option inevitable. The Golden Ellipse is a total design watch though and the nature of the bracelet is key.
Patek Philippe's Golden Ellipse
This year, Patek Philippe has resolved this fit-and-feel issue with a brand new bracelet that can now be resized. When we heard about this, one the first day of the fair, we did not know how to feel about it. No exhibition caseback, no change to the movement…just a new bracelet; pretty ho-hum. Not so. The bracelet is an amazing bit artisanal craftsmanship and might even provoke the envy of Nautilus owners.
Patek Philippe's Golden Ellipse
That is how good this bracelet is, and yes that is a reference to the presence of screwed links here. But this bracelet does not have individual solid pieces, as the aforementioned Nautilus bracelet. Instead, it has more than 360 pieces and is assembled painstakingly by hand. This is what gives this new bracelet its flexibility, in terms of easily accommodating a number of different wrist sizes.
Patek Philippe's Golden Ellipse
In terms of other factors, the watch specifications are very much the same as all other sorts of Golden Ellipse watches. This means there is a solid caseback that obscures the self-winding calibre 240 (which is blessed by the Patek Philippe seal) and that water-resistance is dress-watch standard 30m. Other standard features include the slender cheveu hands, gold dial plate and baton-style applique hour markers. Only the CHF price is known and that works out to be CHF51,000.
Day 2 Highlights from Watches and Wonders Geneva 2024
Patek Philippe Ref. 5330G
We began as we ended on day one at Watches and Wonders Geneva, fixating on Patek Philippe, then moving on to concepts and our fixation on all things calendar-related. As mentioned, our bet this year was on some kind of calendar innovation and Patek Philippe delivered with Ref. 5330G, the manufacture’s first worldtimer with date synched up with local time, as reported yesterday. You might actually remember that we covered this watch last year, or a version of it at any rate. You could read that story for a full brief on this because we will be going big on Ref. 5378/1R-001 first. For this story though, it will be Ref. 5330G because most of the world seems to have missed out on the previous Ref.5330G-010 (read about it to find out why, if you cannot recall).
Another family that will interest collectors is the Twenty~4, on the occasion of its 25th anniversary. An amazingly popular collection, these two special models are destined to become collectibles (quartz movements notwithstanding but that is a personal bias). One could play Ref. 5378 as a jewellery watch too but this is to misunderstand its potential. The Golden Ellipse is one of those models whose potential we have always been harping on, but its bracelet has some issues. Well, those have now been fixed. Wait for our report on this (this is the Internet so you can find it anywhere you get your horological fixes).
Vacheron Constantin Egerie The Pleats of Time concept watch
Moving on, as the fair rolled around, many a watch journalist will have been weighing a somewhat perplexing question; if you love creativity in watchmaking, this one will have made you look up ambivalent in your dictionary. Of course, the question is not whether we should bring you the news about the Vacheron Constantin Egerie The Pleats of Time concept watch. Here it is after all. You may not have clicked on the image or the header and expected this watch but there is no way to avoid this one since it is the only proper concept watch we have seen (so far). No, the question is when to make this reveal and we will go with now.
Vacheron Constantin Egerie The Pleats
Basically, this is a watch with a sense of fine watchmaking and a scent to go with it (it also boasts a sense of style as it references haute couture directly). The watch head itself has not been treated with some sort of chemical or anything; instead, there are ampules in the strap that release a signature scent by perfumer Dominique Ropion. We are told that it all works as a response to the wearer’s movements and, once more, this is a concept watch. We confess though that we are taken by the idea of being able to sense time differently – in a completely novel way.
Parmigiani Fleurier Toric
Finally, this was a watch we saw on our first day but it will get its own story soon anyway. Well, it is an entire collection actually and we are quite sure it will be the WOW Festive issue cover story. We are referring of course to the new Parmigiani Fleurier Toric, which is one of our top collection picks of Watches and Wonders Geneva 2024. In this overall fair story, we reserve unqualified praise for the Toric Petite Seconde 40mm watch. This latest lease of life for the collection that started everything for Parmigiani Fleurier in 1996 is offered only in gold, with gold cases, gold dials and (mostly) gold movements.