Blancpain Grande Double Sonnerie Rings It in Twice

The Grande Double Sonnerie

Without beating around the bush needlessly, a chiming or striking watch is a rarity in watchmaking. A genuine one. The rarest of these types of watches is a grand and petite sonnerie, with many specialists having decades of experience probably only ever experiencing a handful. Basically, this is the very pinnacle of watchmaking, from which you can look down and just about make out the minute repeater. Well, Blancpain has gone one better with its latest superwatch, the Grande Double Sonnerie Ref 15GSQ, a watch that adds a compelling new chapter to the story of fine watchmaking. 

To celebrate this incredible milestone, Blancpain did the unthinkable: invite the aforementioned specialist press for an exclusive preview. The editors of WOW Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand thus all got together at the Blancpain facility at Le Brassus to discover this watch, which is the first in the world to have two selectable ways to sound the time. To be able to learn about Ref. 15GSQ from the people who made it themselves, ahead of the watch’s public debut, is invaluable. 

The Grande Double Sonnerie will be presented in this special box

As befits such a momentous occasion, the editors devote a great deal of attention in the story that follows to how the Grande Double Sonnerie works, including a brief primer on the grande sonnerie in general. Ahead of that, here are some details on Ref. 15GSQ, of which there are two versions – one in red gold and one in white gold. This also means that the mainplate and bridges of the integrated calibre (also named 15GSQ) are executed in the matching gold. In addition to the aforementioned grande and petite sonneries, the watch also features a minute repeater; a 4 Hz flying tourbillon with silicon balance spring; a retrograde perpetual calendar; and power reserve indicators for both the chiming mechanism and the movement overall.

Daniel Goh (DG): Greetings from Malaysia! I hope everyone is well rested and acclimatised from our very secret, and at least for me quite brisk trip, to Le Brassus for a first look at this insane project from Blancpain. I think we mentioned in our last Tick Talk segment that this trip was the first time where the editors of WOW Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia were on the same press trip. And this affords us a very special opportunity to have a spirited discussion about the watch in question. 

We saw the watch precisely two weeks ago and I am glad we are getting to this discussion so soon because the amount of information we received about the piece was staggering to say the least. So I think it is best we put our thoughts down on paper, while all of it is still fresh in our minds.

Ashok Soman (AS): It is certainly the first time I recall all editions being in the same presentation, outside of a watch fair! We have been at the same event or something, but not all together for just one watch. As you say, it was one heck of a watch that came with a tonne of information…and a pair of drumsticks. It was like, “What just happened…” I was tickled though that the NDA we all had to sign had the name of the watch as its title! 

Ruckdee Chotjinda (RC): Grande Double Sonnerie … How about we start this article from here? Can I please have a refresher on what a sonnerie is, to begin with? 

AS: Happily, Blancpain anticipated that very question and provided a neat answer, and from the watchmakers who developed the world’s first double sonnerie. So, I guess we should begin by addressing the type of watch, which is of the striking variety; it sounds out the time, basically. It is part of a grand tradition of what we in the trade call striking or chiming watches and represents the very pinnacle of fine watchmaking. 

This is no overstatement. A chiming watch is at least an order of magnitude more challenging to execute than a tourbillon. A watchmaker typically can start working on tourbillons years before he or she can attempt a chiming watch. The orders of magnitude go up as you move up the scale, from minute repeaters to grande sonneries. That last was the peak, until now. What Blancpain has done here is nothing less than finding a new highest point, but I am getting ahead of myself! Let me say that the Grande Double Sonnerie sounds out the time, meaning the hours and quarters, both on demand and automatically. It also sounds out the minutes, like a minute repeater, on demand. Blancpain added a twist here, which is what elevates the watch, by giving the lucky owner not one but two musical phrases to choose from: the standard Westminster chime or a Blancpain tune!

DG: For me it was fascinating to learn that there were no wristwatch grande sonneries until 1992. This style of chiming has existed for centuries on the massive tower clocks and subsequently pendulum clocks so it was surprising that they didn’t or maybe couldn’t include this complication within the compact confines of a wristwatch until that year. One would have thought that someone would have attempted it earlier. 

So basically, until 1992, all chiming coming out from a wristwatch was done via a minute repeater complication. And the difference is that a minute repeater is activated via a slide that also provides the energy required for the chiming mechanism while the sonnerie, both grande and petite, gets its energy from a mainspring within the movement. And from what we have been told from the many master watchmakers at Blancpain, the sonnerie, although similar in functionality to the minute repeater, is much more complicated to produce.

RC: Hmmm … I’m glad I asked for the refresher because striking watches have never been my forte. They account for a very small percentage of watches I see each year. I think that goes to show how rare the complication is in terms of quantity in relation to other, more common mechanisms out there. I even had to look up the difference between a petite sonnerie and a grande sonnerie before my outbound journey to Le Brassus, just to make sure that I have my facts right. 

So, for the completeness of the refresher provided above by my esteemed colleagues, let me add a bit of information. Both petite sonnerie and grande sonnerie strike the hours at the top of each hour. The difference is at the quarters where a petite sonnerie would strike only the quarters while a grande sonnerie goes on to strike both the hours and the quarters. The action is autonomous (or “en passant”, as the term is often used in horological literature), unlike a minute repeater that is activated on demand. A sonnerie watch would have a selector for the owner to put it in either petite sonnerie, grande sonnerie or silent mode. The same is true for this Blancpain Grande Double Sonnerie with the “Ps-Gs-Sil” selector on the case band on the 9 o’clock side. 

DG: And it is not just about the mechanical complexity with a sonnerie right, there are so many other intangible qualities to a chiming watch. The tonality, quality, and strength of the sound produced add to the appreciation of the watch, which all need exceptional fine-tuning from very experienced ears. This makes Blancpain’s Grande Double Sonnerie all the more special right? Double the sonnerie means double the effort!

Marc A. Hayek & Eric Singer

AS: We often say that a chiming watch is like having Big Ben on your wrist, as a sort of shorthand explanation. That is where the whole Westminster chimes reference comes from. With the Grande Double Sonnerie, we effectively get two clocktowers in one wristwatch. The second one is a tower of rock though because the tune was composed by drummer Eric Singer of Kiss fame. If that is not enough, most sonneries use just two notes but Blancpain doubled that too, with four notes here! And it is those four notes that form both the Singer-penned melody and the Westminster chime. As you might imagine, this means there are parallel tracks in the mechanical system tied to each melody. Crazy stuff but I will take a breath now before I race ahead of myself yet again… 

DG: Can I just also add that while going from a traditional two-note to a four-note chiming mechanism may sound like a simple thing but as with most things in watchmaking, it is most definitely not. Four notes mean that the watch sounds a melody and with something as recognisable as a Westminster chime, you need to nail the pitch and tempo spot on because if not our ears would immediately be able to sense that something is off, and make the chiming unpleasant to hear. The adjustment for the tempo alone was crazy, we are talking about shaving off microns from the teeth of the pièce des quarts that controls the timing of the sonnerie, testing and then adjusting until it is perfect. It isn’t surprising at all that with work like this, Blancpain is only able to make two of these each year.

AS: Since we are in the spirit of chiming in here, let me also add that in terms of those microns Daniel mentioned, these are filled off with special tools that Blancpain developed just for this. And if the watchmaker shaves too much off, they have to throw away this piece. It takes days just for this part, on average, apparently, and there is a lot of trial and error to nail down the process. This is perhaps unsurprising given that Blancpain is reengineering the sound, even if it is not recreating the whole sonnerie mechanism.

RC: And then you have the important matter of the power reserve … or power reserves in this case, as there are two separate barrels: one for the regular timekeeping and another for the striking mechanism. Both are wound by turning the crown (i.e. counterclockwise for the former and clockwise for the latter). I noticed when reading the specifications though that there is a vast difference of eight times between the 96 hours of the regular running train and the 12 hours of the sonnerie and the minute repeater, if the watch is set in the grande sonnerie mode where energy consumption is highest. So during my interview with Mr. Marc A. Hayek, I asked if it would have been technically possible for the striking mechanism to have a 24-hour reserve if the running time of the other is reduced to 48 hours, for example. The answer was no. 

Given the amount of energy used by the grande sonnerie, even if they were to reduce the power reserve of the timekeeping by half, they would have gained only two to three hours more for the striking mechanism. Also, the 12-hour reserve should suffice in real life as the use of striking mechanism is expected only during waking hours. Besides, despite the privileged luxury of having a sonnerie watch, a person is unlikely to have the complication turned on for the whole day because the chimes at every quarter can be excessive. 

My conclusion: the current setup is ideal and most practical, especially considering the important fact that the Grande Double Sonnerie features a perpetual calendar complication as well, and with a retrograde date hand to boot! 

AS: Power reserve and amplitude questions are key for sonneries, for the reasons you note, it also helps that calibre 15GSQ is integrated, not modular, so everything can be optimised for the specific needs of the Grande Double Sonnerie. This also plays into how the watch wears, since we are on a slightly more practical train here, as you might think that the watch will be monstrous on the wrist. The dimensions are 47mm (diameter) and 14.50mm (thickness) so not a small watch by any stretch but also not overwhelming. The movement itself is 35.8mm in diameter and 8.5mm thick, with 1,053 components for the movement.

DG: Speaking of optimised, I like how even though the complications are integrated, they each have their own little space within the movement. I often forget, because the double sonnerie is so interesting, that the watch is also a grande complication. It has a perpetual calendar and a flying tourbillon and each occupy roughly one third of the movement. This was the reason one of the watchmakers mentioned that they had to go with a retrograde perpetual calendar as it was the only way to fit. And this probably helped them keep the dimensions to a much more wearable size. 

Marc A. Hayek was adamant that even though they were making a grande complication he didn’t want the watch to just sit in a safe somewhere, he wanted it to be worn and with these dimensions I think the watch is highly wearable. Okay, it probably won’t fit under the sleeve of a shirt anytime soon, but with a watch like this you probably wouldn’t want to hide it anyway. You probably want to take it out and show off the watch because the finishing on this thing is absolutely insane as well.

the famed underlug correctors for Blancpain's perpetual calendar complication

RC: I wish though that it was possible for us to try the watch on fully strapped. That would have given me an even clearer comparison with similarly large watches. Since this article is dedicated to Blancpain, I will refrain from bringing up model names belonging to other brands. But I will say that, if you can wear the Fifty Fathoms in the 45 mm size, then chances are that you can wear this masterpiece. At 15.5 mm, the Fifty Fathoms is even 1 mm thicker than the Grande Double Sonnerie. I hope this bit of comparison helps, dear readers. 

AS: I very much like that this watch is not meant to be a safe queen; it is also water-resistant to 10 metres, which is better than most such watches. Chiming watches are about as water-resistant as sponges. That commitment to wearability is also why Blancpain will make (roughly) two a year, which is an astonishing commitment. When we visited, the watchmakers explained that all the work, in terms of fine finishing, is shared in the high complications workshop between artisans who are also working on other movements. 

A watchmaker working on one of the gongs

RC: Well, according to the press release, there are 26 bridges on this movement, and these, together with the mainplate, are crafted from 18K gold. You can expect to see their unrestrained use of traditional hand-finishing techniques on both visible and hidden surfaces. Anglage is particularly mentioned during the presentation. There are 135 inward angles across all bridges, and they were executed at a 30° angle instead of the regular 45° angle in order to maximise reflection of light with the upward surfaces. 

AS: The logistics of making the Grande Double Sonnerie are very impressive indeed because I imagined that the brand would need to dedicate watchmakers exclusively for this. On that note, there are two watchmakers involved here, from start to finish, and they get the honour of adding their names in the secret style. On the back of the gold Blancpain plaque, you will find ‘Romain’ or ‘Yoann’ engraved there, although the only way you will find this information is by disassembling the movement, which we do not recommend! Maybe buy two if you want to pursue that… Seriously though, I was deeply impressed that Blancpain is putting the watchmakers forward like this because the practice of big brands relegating their watchmakers to being faceless grunts has been heavily criticised by collectors. If you own this watch, you will no doubt imagine Romain or Yoann working diligently on some delicate bit of anglage that you can appreciate with your loupe. There is a certain degree of satisfaction in knowing that human story, I think – even beyond that new 30° milestone, which we heard may well become the new standard at Blancpain.

The painstaking process of adjusting the tempo for the striking mechanism

DG: Another interesting tidbit I learned while on this trip was that the Grande Double Sonnerie was also double assembled. Unlike some brands that assemble unfinished components first to adjust everything before disassembling and finishing the pieces, Blancpain starts even the first assembly with some finished pieces. Considering the amount of painstaking hand finishing, I would imagine this would be quite daunting for the watchmakers. But apparently this is necessary because for components like the pièce des quarts which was mentioned earlier, the process of adjusting the teeth can take quite a fair bit of time. To prevent dust from entering the movement, it is only after all the fine adjustments are made that the watch is disassembled so that the final assembly can happen in a dedicated clean room.

RC: I must have been paying not enough attention to this part of the tour. Was this mentioned in the presentation lab downstairs? Or later when we were in the assembly room upstairs? 

Gentian wood used in the process of decorating the movement

DG: This was in the assembly room upstairs among the master watchmakers quietly and diligently working on their crafts. It is easy to get distracted by gentian wood used in some of the finishing work. Or maybe it was the stacks of technical documents on the Grande Double Sonnerie just casually laid out on the table.

RC: Yes, yes, yes. I must have been too distracted upon learning that the wood they use in the bevelling work is from the same gentian tree whose roots are used to make that clear liquor served as an aperitif or digestif … which was also appropriately served at our lunch at the manufacture.  

AS: I almost got lost in the technical details because the 21 patents for the movement were laid out before us, ever so invitingly, in folders but I held myself back. This was especially tough because everyone else ignored them! But if I started with the patents, I would have never left. And if I did that, I would have missed all the craftspeople doing the handwork that really makes a difference here. As you guys noted, they even developed special tools and techniques to work on the bridges, plates, wheels and so on of calibre 15GSQ. This is only to be expected at this level of watchmaking because to get the quality you need, each artisan needs very specific tools. Happily, they did not introduce the woody digestif till later or I definitely would have been super distracted. It is not a taste that works easily for everyone’s palette, and on that note… 

DG: And after learning all that, it blew me away when Mr Hayek just casually mentions that for these pieces, they will be open to customer personalisation! I mean usually, when it comes to chiming watches, brands are very adamant that this material and design configuration makes the best sound and that’s that. But Blancpain is open to working with clients to make the watch that the clients want, and would be most likely to take out of the safe and wear. I mean to hear Hayek say he is curious how the watch would sound if a client wants the case in titanium…or with a dial…that was quite special.

The watchmakers Romain and Yoann who will dedicate a considerable amount of their time to this project

RC: Oh, I thank you for bringing this up because I learned something very special from the interview, that is not mentioned in the press release for the Grande Double Sonnerie. You can, if you are willing to spend, personalise even the melodies! 

Hayek did say that this watch is about “the person, the emotion, the story”. So if the client is willing to invest the time and the money or maybe has a friend who is a musician or a composer, Blancpain is happy to personalise the melodies for your unique experience, provided that they fall within the constraints of the four notes. 

Ok. It has been two hours of flat-out writing and I don’t know how many pages this will result in. Let me ask you both for a closing remark on either this entire Grande Double Sonnerie unveiling experience or the importance this significant timepiece carries in terms of the direction in which Blancpain is going. 

AS: I do not know about directions but you opt for a good word there: timepiece. Most other watches are just that – watches. This one is different and you do not need to master all the technical details to appreciate it. If looking at the exacting finishing touches does not quite do it, listening to the melodies will. So, you can both see and hear to believe! Far too many so-called special watches are just checking boxes and waving bona fides aggressively. The Grande Double Sonnerie is the real deal, and I suppose that says something about Blancpain. 

DG: I too can’t speak about where Blancpain is headed. But what I can speak about is that they absolutely chose the correct method to unveil this timepiece, which is at their manufacture, amongst the people that dedicated countless hours (eight years) to make this watch happen. This is a timepiece that needs to be experienced to be understood. Its price tag is hefty, but it is only when you see all the work that went into making it (the research, the fine tuning, the assembly, the finishing, and so many other invisible functions) that you look at the price tag and say, sounds about right. 

RC: You both have covered very well the exaltedness of this Grande Double Sonnerie. Let me add that I take this well-planned release as a departure from the confusion left in my heart by some of the novelties released in the last years of Baselworld. Several watch models were introduced at the time, most of them in the Villeret collection, with sufficient details but absolutely inadequate visuals and almost zero promotion afterwards. They did not even stay long in the collection and that made me sad because they were different from the offerings of the other brands at the same price level. 

The sonnerie selector on the case

With this Grande Double Sonnerie, the visuals are superb in that they illustrate very well the intricacy and the soulfulness of a handcrafted product that will stay with you for a lifetime. While I don’t expect Blancpain to have this same in-person presentation treatment for other, more accessible novelties in the future, I would at least hope for similar beauty shots and perhaps know-how shots every now and then. Having said that, I think we started to see this important improvement already earlier this year with the photographs that accompanied the releases of the new 42mm Fifty Fathom in stainless steel, the new Fifty Fathoms Tech in the permanent collection, and, most recently, the new Golden Hour-themed Villeret watches. This is the most effective way to inspire buyers, if you ask me.  

So, to our dear readers, we hope you enjoyed the unique way in which we bring this Grande Double Sonnerie watch to your attention. And, to the fine people of Blancpain in Le Brassus, in Paudex, in Singapore and in Bangkok, we thank you for letting us discover the Grande Double Sonnerie in this most insightful manner. We are sure that this marks the beginning of an important decade leading up to the brand’s grand celebration of the 300th anniversary in 2035! 

The TOP GUN Miramar Marks a First for IWC

Pilot’s Watch Chronograph 41 TOP GUN Miramar

When we write about IWC’s TOP GUN range, it is typically a salute to clever materials and bold colours and that is partly the case (pun ever-so-slightly-intended) here. The Pilot’s Watch Chronograph 41 TOP GUN Miramar presents itself in a delightful shade of called (no prizes for guessing) TOP GUN Miramar. Your eyes do not deceive you; it is indeed a sort of light blue that is reportedly inspired by the tees worn by the US Navy Fighter Weapons School instructors (under their flight suits). These are, of course, the best of the best and they work on training the next generation of the same. That is not a trivial detail for anyone who might be interested in this version of the Pilot’s chronograph, and neither is the fact that the colour was developed in collaboration with Pantone, the industrial titan of production colours.

The Pilot’s Watch Chronograph 41 TOP GUN Miramar, which we will address for the rest of this story as the TOP GUN Miramar, is also distinguished by a first. While the Pantone partnership has been limited to watches with ceramic cases so far, IWC is offering a steel version this time, with the dial and rubber strap in the signature light blue; getting steel to feature colour that goes beyond the surface is currently beyond the ability of the experts. In any case, Ref. IW388117 is a significant model thanks to its material. The ceramic version features case, dial and strap in TOP GUN Miramar, paired with SuperLuminova-coated blue hands; the steel variant has SuperLuminova-filled hands, which are rhodium-plated. Both models wear tall, at 15.5mm.

The 41mm TOP GUN Miramar watches are both powered by the automatic IWC calibre 69380, with column wheel and oscillating pinion clutch. The ceramic version in particular is a tribute to IWC’s material expertise. The brand was one of the first to experiment with this material in the 1980s, as far as Swiss high-end makers of mechanical watches go. This know-how is what allows IWC engineers to create precision Pantone colours. Only the steel model has an exhibition caseback, with the Ref. IW389409 model having a closed caseback in titanium (engraved with the Top Gun logo) and a soft iron inner case to protect the movement from magnetic forces.

Both watches are also equipped with IWC’s own interchangeable strap system, EasX-CHANGE system, which is reportedly quick and easy (as advertised), with no additional tools required.

Bvlgari's New Thin King: Octo Finissimo Ultra Tourbillon

For its first-ever showing as part of Watches and Wonders Geneva, Bvlgari delivered a biting two-pronged offensive with the Octo Finissimo Ultra Tourbillon and the Serpenti Aeterna. The new Ultra is undisputedly the world’s slimmest tourbillon wristwatch (at just 1.85mm thin, it is 0.5mm thinner than last year’s top dog, the Piaget Altiplano Concept Tourbillon) while the Serpenti Aeterna is now, in our opinion, the world’s most elegant bangle watch. It was a fitting debut, which we covered briefly in our report on the recently concluded fair, though we only noted that Bvlgari delivered good cheer in the Palexpo. That is an understatement that we will rectify.

Elegance is entirely subjective, so we will begin with the Ultra, which, though more complicated, earns its stripes by dint of prowess and ambition. The high-complication department of Bvlgari’s watchmaking division has been chasing down records for more than 10 years now, and the thin chic war has raised watchmaking to new heights. To speak as plainly as possible, a mechanical movement is built up in layers of springs and gears. To make the thinnest watch, the goal is always to try bringing everything onto a single plane, as far as possible. That is the long and short of it, and it leads to spectacular architecture in movement design. It is not for everyone, but this is a limited edition of 20, so that is a given.

In the Octo Finissimo Ultra Tourbillon, calibre BVF 900 adopts the extreme strategy of dispensing with a base plate altogether. Instead, it integrates the caseback as one of its components – this is a leading strategy in this style of watchmaking. Dial-side (although this nomenclature is quite unsuitable for something like the Ultra), what would normally be dominated by the motionworks is also now a showcase for the gear train and the mainspring (obviously, the tourbillon too). As with previous Ultra models, there is no standard crown here. Instead, two effectively exposed gears (one at 8 o’clock and one at 3 o’clock) wind the watch and set the time, respectively. Again, these functions are now on the same plane, which is not the case in a standard movement.

Now, we will dispense with the many other details that go into making the Ultra a magnificent machine, although we may yet decide to dive deep (ahem) into the world of ultra-thin watchmaking soon(ish). We must close here with at least a few words on that Serpenti Aeterna, which is just a joy to wear.

The most streamlined Serpenti yet, this one leans hard into graphics – it does not even look much like a watch. Most of the time, we take a dim view of that, but not here. To match our simplified take on the Ultra, consider the Serpenti Aeterna as the sort of watch you might wear purely for decorative reasons. Note that the specifications here are for the Ultra only.

The Conversation: Engineering Success

Ingenieur Automatic 42 in black ceramic

Watches often evolve in unpredictable ways, especially if they were made to fulfil some kind of need or requirement. If said needs and requirements change, so too does the watch, or watches, in question. Take for example the IWC Ingenieur, which is experiencing a major revival at the moment that is very far removed from its debut 70 years ago.

That original Ingenieur watch was designed to meet the emerging challenge of navigating magnetic fields, alongside a host of other such watches. Watchmakers perceived a threat to the running of their creations from these fields, which would in fact go on to dominate our work and home environments. Hence, IWC introduced the Ingenieur with an automatic movement and an inner soft iron shell that would function as a Faraday cage. In 1955.

Even as the model went through a variety of changes, these elements remained consistent…until now that is. The editors of WOW Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand saw all the new models at Watches and Wonders Geneva this year; the Ingenieur in particular drew their attention. The collection, inspired not by the 1955 original but the 1976 Ingenieur SL imagined by the famed Gerald Genta, sparked their first discussion centred not on broad topics but on just one subject.

Ingenieur Automatic 42 in black ceramic

RC: Guys, we are at the beginning of something new: a brand-specific discussion among the editors!

AS: It is indeed a brand new day…in a manner of speaking. And, we’re also going collection specific. So, are we ready for the IWC Ingenieur of 2025?

RC: Presently, of all five collections listed on the IWC web site, “Ingenieur” is one of the two families named after a profession, with the other being “Pilot’s Watches”. And that reflects the focused nature or objective with which the watch was developed in the first place.

DG: I have a feeling that with such focused attention on one collection, things are about to get extremely nerdy…

AS: Nerdy? Funnily enough, we have an odd question to ponder: where to begin… The Ingenieur has had quite a number of lives and, as Ruckdee noted, it remains only the second such model (named for and aimed at a specific profession) in the brand’s history. Why is it a watch for engineers? Well, from what the brand says, it all comes down to the antimagnetic properties of the watch. The Ingenieur was literally engineered to face the challenges of an electronic world.

DG: It has such a fascinating back story. But let’s not forget, IWC is in Schaffhausen which is nearer to the German side of the Swiss border and you know the reputation that the Germans have for their engineering. It makes sense that way back when, IWC probably thought that hey, there are a lot of engineers around here; they need to tell time; magnetic inference is a problem; and we have a brilliant solution!

RC: Good point made there, Daniel. I first discovered IWC as a resolutely sober, white and black brand, with a heightened sense of engineering, and no obvious partnership or celebrity endorsement. Having said that, I have a confession to make. When I was much younger, I didn’t know that the very first Ingenieur was round! At the time, I thought the Ingenieur SL designed by Gerald Genta in 1976 was already the beginning of the collection. Then I discovered that I was not sufficiently educated, because the very first Ingenieur was in fact a round watch known as Ref. 666 in 1955 or exactly 70 years ago.

Ingenieur Perpetual Calendar

AS: IWC is very Teutonic, that is true, and it was a champion of tool watches. Still is, in important ways that are today most evident in both this collection and the Aquatimer. Where water-resistance is the name of the game in dive watches, IWC foresaw that mechanical watches needed protection from the magnetic fields of the electronic devices that were becoming ubiquitous in the second half of the 20th century. That is where the story from the original from the 1950s still plays a part, although I join Ruckdee in only recalling the 1976 Ingenieur SL.

DG: I wonder what it was that made the watch unsuccessful when it was launched in the late 1970s? Officially they say the design was too visionary, but I suppose there should be more factors in play here as well right? Could it have been the quartz watches that were probably gaining momentum around the same time? Or maybe even the asking price was too high? Does anybody know what the Ref. 1832 cost at the time it was made?

RC: No, I don’t know the original retail price of the Ingenieur SL. But I think I know why it is so collectible right now: not so many pieces were made! IWC’s latest information notes, and I quote, “With the modesty and sobriety of a tool watch manufacturer, IWC chose a different approach and marketed the Ingenieur SL exclusively to engineers in the years to come. However, for this target group, Genta’s design was simply too bold and too visionary. And so, between 1976 and 1983, only 598 pieces were produced and sold.”

AS: There are boons to making only a very limited number of pieces, especially to collectors. Now, aside from being a famous maker of tool watches, IWC is a brand that wants to sell a lot of pieces so it is perhaps unsurprising that the Ingenieur’s first run ended in the 1980s. However, there was clearly a tonne of unrealised potential in the collection as the brand returned it to the lineup as the mechanical watch revival got underway at the start of the 21st century. To be clear, the collection was quite respected when it came back but IWC has fiddled with the design a number of times before hitting its stride in 2023, when the first four models appeared in the current style.

RC: I was not a fan of contemporary, round Ingenieur watches when they made brief resurgences during that fiddling phase. So, I was very pleased in 2023 when IWC did what they did: formally re-establishing the collection on the aesthetic basis of the Genta-designed Ingenieur SL. The size is also good and safe at 40mm.

“When I was younger, I didn’t know that the first Ingenieur was a round watch known as Ref. 666 in 1955” said by Ruckdee Chotjinda, Editor-in-Chief, WOW Thailand.

AS: There are some characteristics that define the Ingenieur, particularly the Genta-era Ingenieur SL that Ruckdee referenced there. The integrated bracelet form is, of course, a key part of the winning formula, but so is the industrial vibe of the bezel and the dial. For the longest time, and until this year, it was also the presence of the soft-iron inner case that marked the Ingenieur; that was the Faraday cage, of a sort, that gave the watch its impressive antimagnetic credentials.

RC: I don’t know the average magnetic levels in our daily life or around specific devices, but the standard Ingenieur Automatic 40 in stainless steel with the said soft-iron inner case offers magnetic resistance to the level of 40,000 A/M, whereas the ISO standard requires a dive watch to be magnetic resistant to only 4,800 A/M. More superficially, I was thrilled to see how they brought back the “grid” dial of the Ingenieur SL. I think it gives yet another important signature to this highly technical collection of timepieces.

AS: Moving right along, after those four watches from 2023, the brand found its footing and decided to go all-in here. There are now 12 models in the Ingenieur collection, including its first-ever perpetual calendar model and an incredible ceramic model. Sizes now range from 42mm to 35mm, with that perpetual calendar model coming in at a unique 41mm.

DG: I am not at all surprised that IWC decided to add a ceramic model to its collection; the material is gaining traction in the industry and has been doing so in the last couple of years. What did surprise me, however, was IWC’s heritage with this material. The brand made the first zirconium oxide black ceramic case in 1986. And apparently there was also another Pilot’s watch in black ceramic in 1994. All of these were before my time covering watches but these days, I think IWC is investing heavily in developing ceramic materials. The firm has Ceralume, which successfully integrates Super-LumiNova® pigments into ceramic, and the collaboration it did with the German Aerospace centre introduced fibre-reinforced ceramic as a viable material. So, I think it was only natural that IWC brought its expertise with ceramic to the Ingenieur collection. And I suppose with ceramic being a non-magnetic material, this fits into the whole antimagnetic ethos of the Ingenieur.

Stylised view of the principal components of the Ingenieur Automatic 42 in black ceramic

AS: You know, people do say it is all about details in fine watchmaking, which is what IWC does these days, and the new ceramic Ingenieur gets it right. I was surprised to learn that the crown and crown guards are also in ceramic, and so is the caseback. As you know, although we did not say it properly for the record, the five screws visible on the bezel are functional, connecting the three parts of the case to each other. The Ingenieur has only featured this as a key element now, with the 1976 debut going with a different case structure, and it is important to the feel of the reimagined watch. This sort of thing is part of the reason that ceramic watches often do not have ceramic casebacks. I presume this is something IWC wanted to figure out before getting into ceramic here because Daniel is right to note the general proficiency the brand has demonstrated with ceramic (since 1986 with reference 3755 in fact but we will get to that shortly).

RC: One thing caught me by surprise, though, and that is the size of the new ceramic Ingenieur. Unlike the Ingenieur Perpetual Calendar 41 with extra indications to display, the Ingenieur Automatic 42 in ceramic is a three-hander so, at first, I didn’t know why it had to be 42mm when it could have been in the same 40mm size as the models in stainless steel and titanium. My initial guess was that it was due to complications with the case construction and ceramic parts and all. But then I looked closer and discovered that a totally different movement was used! The Ingenieur Automatic 42 in black ceramic is powered by the larger Calibre 82110, which is also visible through the tinted sapphire crystal caseback. The Ingenieur Automatic 40 in stainless steel or titanium is equipped with Calibre 32111, which belongs to a totally different IWC movement lineage, not hidden behind the closed case back.

DG: You know you still could be right. It could be due to the complications with the case construction that they have to use a different movement. Additionally, it could also be that because the ceramic is in black, they needed to use a larger case to give the watch the intended appearance on the wrist. Maybe a fully black 40mm watch would look closer to a 38mm on the wrist?

“I think it was only natural that IWC brought its expertise with ceramic to the Ingenieur collection. After all, it is a non-magnetic material”— Daniel Goh, Editor-in-Chief, World of Watches, Malaysia

RC: This is why I like chatting with you guys. You expand my perspectives! While we won’t know for sure until we ask IWC what its intentions or constraints were with regard to the ceramic Ingenieur being larger than the rest, it is cool to ponder at the possible reasons and the effects they bring. I, for example, didn’t think about the effect where a black ceramic 40mm watch has the potential to look smaller than its measured size. But I agree that, as things stand now, the current Ingenieur watches in different materials look appropriate for their respective persona. Ashok, what do you think?

AS: I like the story of the ceramic model, and how IWC had to come up with neat engineering solutions to make the case construction work. Also, the little things such as the aforementioned crown and guards – having these made in matching black ceramic is going the extra mile. You only need to imagine how specific this process is – only this model uses such components, in the entire IWC range. This kind of production fastidiousness (and ultimately, exclusivity) is what fine watchmaking is all about. If you really consider it, the case (and components) of this 42mm watch is worth an entire article, and we did toy with that idea right here before going in this direction. As for the size, I think it was the decision to use the Calibre 82110 movement that defined it, and probably some sort of consideration on minimum sizes for water-resistance and perhaps even those little components! Truth be told, integrated watches wear a bit bigger than you might expect so I would love it if there was a 40mm version but, on the other hand, some differentiation is very desirable. To finish here, I wish that the dial was also in ceramic, with this same design (i.e. the grid pattern) of course! Something to look forward to perhaps, and more realistic (maybe) than a smaller size…

Ingenieur Automatic 35 in 5N gold case

DG: I second that idea for a dial in ceramic. IWC, if you are reading this…

RC: It’s not a must for me. But if they can make a ceramic dial without losing the grid pattern then I am in, otherwise I would prefer for the dial to stay as is. So what is your favourite, current model Ingenieur then? Daniel? I do like the new Ingenieur Automatic 42 in black ceramic and my wrist can take the size, but I am still partial towards the Ingenieur Automatic 40 in stainless steel with Aqua dial which I find to be quite refreshing – it is not too green and already not blue.

DG: Anyone who knows me will know that although I love the technical complexities of making a material like ceramic (pressure and fire, what’s not to like?) I think the size will be a tad bit big for my personal tastes. So, for that reason, I think the new 35mm Ingenieur is a pretty compelling release from the brand this year. And if we are talking full fantasy, how about that 35mm Ingenieur in full 18K 5N gold. How baller is that?!

AS: I do like the smaller releases here, again mainly because of that whole integrated bracelet thing. Also, great that IWC went with yet another movement for the smaller models, Calibre 47110; this does wonders for that model differentiation that I keep harping on. All too often, brands will just go with one movement in cases of multiple sizes and that irks me, as it does Ruckdee too! I think the decision to have every size and specification (the ceramic model and the perpetual calendar) in the new Ingenieur range have its own movement is a deft touch, even if it probably was not decided in this way.

“I applaud the decision to equip every size and specification in the Ingenieur range with distinct movements” — Ashok Soman, Editor-in-Chief, WOW Singapore

RC: Oh, don’t get me started on an open case back with a much smaller movement than case. We don’t have the pages for my rant. But where the Ingenieur is concerned, so far everything is proportionate and well-thought-out to me. They have regular, smaller and larger case sizes. They have steel, performance materials and noble metal. And, with the perpetual calendar being added this year, even before there is a chronograph, we can anticipate the latter next year, perhaps.

AS: I am pretty sure that we can expect more in ceramic from the Ingenieur, given the history of material innovation at IWC. Not at all a stretch to see a perpetual calendar in the mix, especially since IWC introduced ceramic to watchmaking with a perpetual calendar in 1986, although in the Da Vinci line. And the brand does have some expertise in making complicated watches in materials such as ceramic, and of course hybrids, including Ceratanium. Honestly, the Ingenieur collection is just brimming with potential on the material front. And yes, the thought of IWC introducing a chronograph with ceramic pushers did occur to me too, mostly because the Pilot’s Watch Performance Chronograph Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month already has such a thing, but in Ceratanium!

DG: It is exciting, isn’t it, when a brand introduces a new collection, especially one with such a cool origin story and more importantly, with a design that can speak to contemporary tastes. The expansion of the line has already begun and I am sure if you look at IWC’s playbook, the gears are already churning for the next few releases. Predictably we will probably see line extensions for the newly launched references in the coming years but I am pretty sure that there will still be a few surprises up IWC’s sleeve. I wish IWC would do a limited-edition reissue of the original SL reference 1832 but it seems highly unlikely. Even the watch they put on Brad Pitt’s wrist for the shooting of the film – F1 – was apparently a modified version of an original watch. But, one can dream right? In any case, it is great to see the positive reception of the Ingenieur and I am definitely looking forward to covering its future.

Ingenieur Automatic 40 in 5N gold case

This story was first seen as part of the World of Watches Malaysia Summer 2025 issue

Highlights from Watches and Wonders Geneva 2025

Watch fairs like Watches and Wonders Geneva (WWG) are built around a measure of secrecy that can be difficult to understand but this year was a little different. Since there was an unprecedented leak from Rolex on most of its novelties, including the deeply consequential Oyster Perpetual Land-Dweller, plans for grand reveals went up like smoke – minus the fireworks. Brands flooded everyone’s inboxes with their news by midnight on day one of WWG 2025, with only a few staying their hands, notably Patek Philippe and Bulgari. We are not sure about the value of preserving mystique and the like, but one of the joys of a show like WWG is discovering watches for the first time on day one. It can even influence decisions on which brands to see first next time. On that note, the top dog of this fair was Rolex, leaks notwithstanding.

Rolex Land-Dweller

It is certainly a rare vintage year for the jolly green giant of Geneva watchmaking, with not only new models and new dials but also two new bracelets – just one of those would have been remarkable enough. Needless to say, when you throw the new calibre 7135 into the mix, this spells domination (in our opinion). With the Land-Dweller, Rolex has the most important watch of 2025. Yes, that means the entire year and includes all brands, not just Swiss ones and not just the 60 or so brands exhibiting within the Palexpo. The only brand that could challenge Rolex is Rolex, and that would indeed be something. With the world as it is, we are lucky in watchmaking that the most powerful force is indeed a force for good. We have it on good authority that the Land-Dweller is coming to stores soon, and it will not be limited to Bucherer, to cite just one example.

Patek Philippe Calatrava Ref. 6196P

Overall, the fair was abuzz with good cheer from A. Lange & Sohne, Bulgari, Vacheron Constantin, Zenith and Patek Philippe. Since we gave over our entire first day coverage to Rolex, with the aforementioned watch, we shall lead here with Patek Philippe. Of course, we noted the new sizes for the Cubitus on social media but this is hardly the story at the great Geneva brand. Instead, what seems to have grabbed the most attention is Ref. 6196P, which is a successor of sorts to the discontinued Ref. 5196. For anyone who appreciates the Calatrava, this new model will be essential. The brand’s continuing commitment to good timekeeping principles is evident in the calibre 30-255 PS (new for this reference but introduced in 2021).

Patek Philippe Quadruple Complication ref. 5308G-001

For something more complicated, there is a new split-seconds chronograph built into an existing calibre in ref. 5308G that features two special features. The first is an anti-backlash wheel to tackle friction when the chronograph wheel engages with the seconds wheel; the second is an isolation system that prevents energy consumption when the split seconds mechanism is stopped. If that sounds prosaic, that is because these are functional improvements that will not be immediately evident. This is because this reference is a quadruple complication, with minute repeater, split-seconds chronograph and instantaneous perpetual calendar. One reason that the new technical features will make themselves felt here is that the split-seconds chronograph is new – it was previously a mere chronograph.

Les Cabinotiers ‘Solaria Ultra Grand Complication’

For cynics and realists alike, there is every chance that Patek Philippe is saving something for later in the year. This does not matter that much for this story because there are plenty of great watches fighting for your very valuable attention at WWG. Key amongst those will be the Vacheron Constantin Les Cabinotiers Solaria Ultra Grand Complication, which now has the honour of being the world’s most complicated watch (by number of functions at 41, if not the 1,521 component count) as well as the first grand complication to crown itself with the ‘ultra’ designation. We especially like that the watch manages to cram all of this horological excellence into a case clocking in at just 14.99mm thick (it is 45mm in diameter and has two faces, but this is irrelevant).

Vacheron Constantin Le Cabinotiers Tour de l’Île

Interestingly, the Solaria Ultra was made by just one master watchmaker, whose identity has not been disclosed, much as the old standards were. Unusually, this watchmaker worked with the designer on the case; normally, aesthetics are a domain that does not concern the movement developer and thus we wonder if there is a secret signature somewhere here that points to the identity of the maker, just as was the case for Jean-Marc Vacheron back in the day. Yes, the Solaria Ultra might be the most sought-after yet completely inaccessible watch of its kind. It certainly helps that Vacheron Constantin is making just one of this model, although we fully expect that it will be hugely consequential for releases in the coming years. For evidence, just look to the 250th anniversary watch and what happened there.

Zenith GFJ

From the supremely complicated, we move to a simple expression of precision with the Zenith GFJ. Clearly, another anniversary we are paying attention to is over at Zenith, which celebrates its 160th birthday this year with the aforementioned new GFJ model. Just as the Skyline was at its debut, this is now the only full collection that exists with pure time-only properties. Collectors will no doubt hanker for a chronograph and it may already be on the way but for now, we get to enjoy this new collection as pure tribute to precision timekeeping. Calling attention to itself with a massive balance wheel, the reissue of the manual-winding Calibre 135 looks like a straight recreation but it is anything but. The unique brick-style decoration on the movement plates indicates that much, and it will only be in play for this anniversary edition. A key technical feature of the GFJ is its 72-hour power reserve, which is highly contemporary (and an improvement over the original’s 40-hour or so rating). What is the accuracy of this tribute to on-point timekeeping then? The brand says it is chronometer-level, meaning +/-2 seconds per day.

Chanel J12 Bleu

Looking at broader trends and the like, it is probably best to wait a few weeks to digest all the information. For those who insist on gleaning whatever they can, we will simply say that case sizes continue to become more demure even as dials embrace all manner of novel decorations, materials and colours. If you thought we hit peak colour with the bold Rolex Oyster Perpetuals of a few years ago, well think again. Even Chanel is joining in, with its advertising reading “It’s not black; it’s not white. It’s Bleu.” We will be brining you more on this front and the remarkable J12 Bleu soon but we must return to those broad strokes we mentioned. To avoid ending on a sour note, we will sneak in a reference to the ongoing tariff wars, which of course impact watchmaking too.

To be blunt, there are much more important consequences to the tariffs than will be felt in Swiss watchmaking at all levels. The US is an important market for Swiss watches – the number one market in fact – so there are likely to be shocks but it is the wild west out there and no one knows how this will pan out. Uncertainty is the new normal as the stock market presents the cash-rich youth with opportunities to build wealth like their parents did. In fact, this should read ‘stock markets’ because there is hardly one that has not taken a dive.

Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso Tribute Minute Repeater

We will end, for now, with a note about the watch industry’s commitment to making every shape possible, so long as those shapes are round. WWG 25 did not reveal any changes here, nor did it indicate that brands were in the mood to experiment with forms. The most exciting form watches this year are still from brands with established legitimacy here, including Cartier, Jaeger-LeCoultre and Bulgari, which is a fresh entrant in the Palexpo. Of the bold bunch, led as always by Hublot, things were quiet as far as new developments go but there is optimism aplenty in the messaging. For the 20th anniversary of the Big Bang, there are a lot of special editions to choose from, and every indication that the brand is holding back on a surprise or two. And that, we predict, is all we can expect from the world of watches in the second half of 2025: surprises.

Bell & Ross BR-03 Astro Charts a New Course in Timekeeping

If nothing else, Bell & Ross should be commended for its commitment to audacity, which it demonstrates again with the BR-03 Astro. While the Franco-Swiss watchmaker is best known for its circle-within-a-square aesthetic, it also likes to surprise with telling challenges to conventional timekeeping. Late last year, Bell & Ross unveiled the BR-03 Horizon, a watch that proposed a slightly different way to read time; the new 41mm BR-03 Astro in black ceramic builds on this. Simply put, you are looking at three cosmic bodies that you no doubt can easily identify but we shall spell it out here since they do play the time display role that hands normally would.

The Earth, in its decidedly non-Copernican central place, remains still while the other elements perform the dance of time around it. Mars tracks the hours; the moon tracks the minutes; and the satellite tracks the seconds. Bell & Ross is being somewhat coy with its description of the mobile elements but it seems a fetching mystery. All those elements must move across the aventurine dial without disrupting its purity and the images here no doubt make you wonder how exactly this works. If so, then consider the representation of the Earth, which is actually carved into the sapphire crystal.

The brand says it is a “spherical cap” showcasing our home planet in relief. In other words, the Earth is recessed into the sapphire crystal that covers the dial. This must count as one of the most intriguing uses of this design element, which is otherwise meant to protect the dial and not get in the way of reading the time – it still boasts anti-reflective coating, which is a nice touch. In case you missed it, this use of the sapphire crystal is the audacity we speak of. What brought about this fresh take on time and craft?

“The Cupola, the observation dome of the International Space Station (ISS), inspired this watch, which acts as a kind of porthole opening onto the planets,” said Bruno Belamich, Creative Director and co-founder of Bell & Ross. “I imagined Earth seen from space in symbolic alignment with the Moon and Mars. The magic of this watch lies in its display—not as a technical interpretation of an instrument watch but, for once, in an imaginative dimension.” So, in its own standout way, the BR-03 Astro remains devoted to the aviation domain. We salute Belamich and company for their creative thinking here.

In terms of the basics, the BR-03 Astro is powered by the automatic BR-CAL.327, which is based on the Sellita SW300 movement, just as the Horizon was. The power reserve is given as 54 hours. The case, as noted above, is in micro-blasted black ceramic (making this a not so shine-happy piece), has a stated thickness of 11.5mm and is water-resistant to 100m. The strap is a combination of black rubber and black fabric. The BR-03 Astro is limited to 999 pieces.

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How Influencers Are Reshaping the Watch Industry

Meet Kristian Haagen, self-described “middle-aged watch collector” and author of eight watch books, a man with 156,000 followers keen to know his latest watch-related thoughts. “I came late to being an influencer and, really, being one wasn’t anything I thought I should be proud of. My privilege is that I get to talk only about watches, which is a very niche product”. In fact, it is all a bit odd, he says: “You buy a watch and talk about it, and other people buy the same watch. That's strange.”

Haagen may find the whole thing amusing and bemusing but the rising relevance of social media and, more specifically, its particular enthusiasts for different subjects – the so-called influencers of Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, and TikTok (each platform seemingly replacing the former) – is challenging the way marketing is done across many lifestyle-oriented industries. While that might sound like it has little or nothing to do with watches, the evidence suggests otherwise.

“In fact, Instagram has changed everything about the way watches are marketed,” Haagen contends. “If the cool gang on social media says a watch has to be 34mm, or whatever, that’s the way the market moves. And I’m influenced by that as well. Suddenly I feel uncool in a larger watch.”

Impressive Reach

Daniel Wellington is an oft-cited test case in the role of influencers in the watch world: the company’s founder Filip Tysander built his entire brand off the back of Instagram when it launched in 2010 – reaching out to multiple influencers, before they were even called such, and offering them free products and trackable promo codes to share, then repurposing their content in his brand’s advertising campaigns. Within three years, he was selling US$228m of watches.

Sure, with its relatively cheap production costs, Daniel Wellington could afford to give watches away. But it was some kind of lesson learned. Small wonder that much bigger brands the likes of TAG Heuer, Hublot, Audemars Piguet and IWC now, years later, collaborate with influencers on TikTok, with IWC being the first luxury watch brand to host a live stream event on the channel last year.

Certainly, the reach of influencers – notably those with the leverage of genuine subject knowledge and a personal rapport with engaged followers – can impress. When Robert-Jan Broer, founder of Fratello Watches, created the hashtag ‘speedytuesday’ on Facebook back in 2012, in celebration of Omega’s Speedmaster, it would go on to spawn an entire movement of fans, as well as events held around the globe and two limited-edition watches, one of which was produced in 2,012 units and sold out in four hours. The hashtag has since been used on Instagram more than 400,000 times. Its impact is still felt today, arguably.

Conservative Resistance

“It really took off like crazy,” says Broer. “But, importantly, it was all very genuine, just a community of like-minded Speedmaster enthusiasts and an idea that ran away with itself. Of course, Fratello was approached by other reputable brands after to do the same thing but [the proposals] felt made up and didn’t make sense to me, whereas I’ve collected Speedmasters for 20 years.”

And yet, for many at the higher end of the watch business – especially maybe those self-consciously positioning themselves as makers of ‘luxury products’ – there would appear to remain a deeply embedded reluctance to dip more than a toe into the influencer world. That may simply be down them being, as Haagen puts it, part of “the most conservative business in the world, selling a product that nobody needs.”

But Juerg Hostettler, influencer and founder of Brandfluence, a brand agency that has worked with the likes of Fortis, as well as Sony and Mercedes, is nonetheless surprised by just how little watch content there is put out by influencers, at least relative to other subjects. Some brands, he reckons, are still comfortable targeting an older demographic and see no reason to get into bed with influencers. Others he wonders “perhaps just don’t understand [the influencer world] yet. That encourages them to think they don’t need it.”

Fast Food Not Fine Dining

That reluctance may stem from a mismatch between what many watch brands deem to be central to their public image – their savoir-faire, their history, their complex micro-mechanics, all of which might require longer and deeper forms of media to cover well, and which the earlier watch blogs and forums did so well, sometimes to a scholarly extent; and what the dominant social media thrives on – lower-quality content, but snappier, instant-impact, quickly replaced, shareable and above all accessible coverage with an exponentially larger reach. Fast food as opposed to fine-dining, maybe.

“It’s why what [watch influencers] thrive on is a love of shape, not of complications,” argues Haagen. “One reason Cartier is doing so well now is that its products are all about shapes. It’s that simple.” Of course, as Haagen himself notes, that is only one reason so those of you who might be foaming at the mouth, given the overwhelming preference for round watches noted by, well everyone, should consider a muscle relaxant at this point.

Moving on, the nature of social media is maybe also why, given the algorithms at work, it skews towards the same kind of watch content. Even the same kind of watches, suggesting a trend – for steel sports watches, for example – or a spike in the desirability of a certain model has come up organically when actually it has been generated through data mining.

Desensitised and Devalued

“There's a huge issue here. While influencers have been good for building communities around what are, after all, a very specialist interest I think [the influencer ecosystem] has driven demand for certain models,” argues Justin Hast, Youtuber, regular IWC collaborator and publisher of ‘The Watch Annual’. “This distorts our view of a watch – you see one everywhere on social media, a (Patek Philippe) Nautilus, for example, but how often do you actually see anyone wearing one (in real life)? I think we become desensitised to models we see too much, which devalues them in some way I think”.

But there is also a tonal disparity: high-end watch brands are, on the whole, sober and often somewhat pompous. Instagram, and especially the new frontier of TikTok, often takes a more irreverent, humorous, playful, ironic and sometimes anarchic point of view. Check out the Horological Dictionary, for example; one recent, and relatively tame, post on Jaeger-LeCoultre introduces it as “a rare and exciting glimpse into the world’s most respected and least pronounceable watchmaker.”

Collectors will sneer at this, noting that Jaeger-LeCoultre is just as difficult to know how to pronounce as A. Lange & Söhne, Ulysse Nardin, or Vacheron Constantin. Or how about Bvlgari, which insists on this specific spelling? Even Tissot and Hublot, with two-syllable names, can be challenging for the English-speaking world, and we have not even addressed how watch brand names are presented in Chinese. On that note about Hublot though...


"The influencer world is the Wild West,
and the train going there has already departed"

Losing Control

Some social media accounts allow you to see a twenty-something flipping watches in a train station carpark or horological savant Nico Vanderhost’s latest entertaining takedown of celebrity watch collections. And this kind of thing reaches millions. But that loss of control of the narrative is something a deeply conservative industry has, to date, rarely been at ease with.

“The problem is that [many of the top brands] are stuck in this idea of a very polished, perfect world,” says Maxime Couturier, co-founder of brand marketing agency Apresdemain. It has worked with the likes of the Fondation Haute Horlogerie and Girard-Perregaux, and last year launched ‘Heist Out’, an underground, dissident watch magazine. “(Influencers) can be an amazing tool to grow interest in watches, and to connect collectors, but (the industry) needs to get beyond its image as always being an expensive-looking guy in a Patek. It needs to break those long-established codes, as the fashion industry has managed to do”.

“What [many major watch industry brands] think [is happening] doesn’t correspond to what’s actually happening online,” adds his business partner Lorenzo Maillard. “They have this idea that if you put a watch next to a tracksuit then viewers won’t get that their product is 100 percent luxury anymore. It’s crazy to me how brands have constrained themselves. It’s not as though consumers are asking for this exclusivity, this luxury lifestyle image.”

Breaking Free

Some, perhaps, are taking the hint. Cartier’s own Instagram account, which it launched in 2022, for example, has a decidedly less polished feel relative to its normally high-gloss marketing. It affords Cartier a different kind of cool – more Tiong Bahru, less Orchard Road.

Certainly, while social media has had a powerful impact on the way second-hand watches are bought and sold, on the fostering of the vintage market, and of meet-ups by watch-loving community groups, arguably it is influencers who will have the greater impact in changing how watches are perceived, and, some say, for the better.

Influencers argue, as they might, that breaking free of these constraints can only be a good thing for the watch industry, ripping watch appreciation out of the confines of haughty sales staff, beige boutiques and manufactured exclusivity, and making it much more diverse, more everyday, more fun and much more appealing to demographics the industry has been tardy to embrace: younger, fashion-conscious people, and women, such as those focused on by Instagram influencer Brynn Waller under the name of Dimepiece. This is precisely the demographic more likely to follow influencers of course.

"I do think that maybe the whole influencer
thing has gone too far - Don Cochrane, Vertex"

Beyond The Old Boys Club

“What’s really shifting, importantly, as a result of influencers is that [an interest in watches] is becoming more open as a hobby – it’s not just an old boys network talking about luxury Swiss watches,” argues Lydia Winters, who only discovered her passion for watches five years ago and now shares her watch photography with her many Instagram followers and ‘This Watch Life’ podcast. She argues that influencers especially have become a gateway to watches for a younger audience that – depending on the study you read – is in serious danger of losing all interest in watches.

“There are some people who still get excited about the more traditional technical aspects [of a watch]. But there are more and more influencers now reaching out to the even younger TikTok generation and saying, for example, that a watch can be Quartz, and that that’s ok," she adds. "They’re reaching out with an enthusiasm for watch design, or with stories about why they chose the watch they have. With an industry that has been far too serious for too long, they’re making watches joyful and whimsical again”.

While that might sound shockingly naïve, it is still informative and speaks to certain undeniable truths, although perhaps not the ones openly stated there. After all, influencers have proven key to the profile of independent watchmakers and the watch micro brands sector – those without the budgets to buy pages in glossy magazines, or to sign a contract with a Hollywood star, but often with the kind of visually arresting or unusual products for which the likes of Instagram is ideal. “I don’t think the whole micro-brand thing would have happened without them providing the necessary exposure,” says Lewis Heath, founder of AnOrdain and Paulin.

Independence is Power

So, are the more mainstream brands just moving too slowly? Some 15 years ago, digital watch platforms were shunned; now some are brands in their own right, and watch brands are keen on collaborating. But there remains a troubling sense... Yes, the more rough-and-tumble, quick-change world of social media and its influencers is a train that the watch brands need to board but it also has a destination they are not sure about. It may be reading between the lines, but of five major names in watches approached for comment about their attitude to influencers for this article, five found reasons not to comment.

Perhaps they are right to keep their cards close to their chest. As it is often described, the world of influencers is a ‘Wild West’ right now. And that influencer train? It may have already departed. Yes, influencers have arguably pushed brands to new levels of accountability for the quality of their products. They can act as an independent press, ridiculing your new watch while print media – dependent on advertising spent – reliably toe the line; this is not to say influencers of the sort cited here cannot be bought, but the watch collector with a sizeable following often cannot. “The collector community can be visceral and will come down on a brand very heavily if it thinks it’s doing something wrong,” as Hast notes. That is not something luxury brands are used to – even the old frontier of the collectors’ forum did not have the same reach. Its influence was limited, in other words.

On the other hand, as Broer notes, the influencer ecosystem, and its appeal to watch brands, seems to be bifurcating between influencers who are, as he puts it, “watch people, who have an emotional connection to the products”, and the growing army of “professional influencers” who are ready to push any product, watches included, often without revealing the deal that lies behind their enthusiasm; the ones, as Hast jokes, who seem to spend a lot of their time with their tops off standing by swimming pools.

Inconclusive Results

“There are those watch enthusiasts, but most influencers seem willing to [promote] just about anything. I stopped looking at social media about three years ago because I was getting too annoyed at all the things that weren’t accurate or were just made up,” says Paulin’s Heath, who is not yet convinced that influencers have much real commercial affect, not least because he suspects nowhere near as many people with the disposable income to buy a good watch are on social media as regularly as is often suggested.

“We had a lot of people on Instagram talking about how great our watches were and that didn’t seem to actually sell anything. Then we got a product review [on an online magazine] and sold 20 that weekend,” he notes.

If once influencers proposed a fresh alternative to traditional advertising and sponsorship, with its unabashed but dated kind of self-promotion, influencers already can look similarly tainted. This means both those who take the money and, unfortunately, those that do not. Clearly, regular users of unregulated social media are increasingly savvy to the financial dynamic that underpins many influencers’ relationships with watch companies: that they are paid, one way or another, to post positive comments or reviews.

Hardening Doubts

Kristian Haagen concedes that he has at times been pressured by watch brands, which shall remain nameless, to make changes to his posts or to push some aspect they were more keen to promote. His honest response? “I’m a softy on that,” he laughs. “There have been heated moments but I’d rather we all stayed good friends. Maybe they think I did something wrong? So I’ll change it. We have to remember here that we’re just talking about watches, not saving the world. And I think that the public isn’t stupid, thankfully – people know that influencers are another marketing channel and we shouldn’t forget that.”

Indeed, that is the way Don Cochrane, founder of Vertex, tends to think about it. As a small brand, it has a small marketing budget. He does not court influencers but, on rare occasions, he has given away a watch and, he says, it feels much the same as buying an ad in a publication.

“But I do think that maybe the whole influencer thing has already gone too far,” he says. “It’s reached saturation point, so it’s hard to get above all the chatter,” he says. “If we were to use an influencer it would be hard to know who that person would be, because it’s about finding people with real traction with their audience, and for us that may not be as simple as connoisseur watch collectors. I think my doubts about influencers will only harden.”

Finding The Right Fit

"There’s already a weariness about the relationship between brand and influencers setting in. My kids, 14 and 18, are very much fed up with posts that have obviously been paid for and don’t seem a good fit," agrees Hostettler. “Social media and many influencers on it remain a great way to research watches or to find out more about one you might already be thinking about buying. But for me it’s not a good place from which to take recommendations, especially those you haven’t asked for. That’s rightly causing suspicion”.

That means that those watch brands now warming to the idea of tapping influencers need to tread carefully. Justin Hast puts up a spirited defence of the right kind of relationship, one with that ‘good fit’. “Of course, the right collaboration between a big brand and an enthusiast who loves the brand, with whom it’s had a long relationship and whom the audience trusts makes perfect commercial sense,” he says, “just as to simply chase an influencer because they have big numbers doesn’t.”

“What I think we’re actually seeing now is a big shake-up, a shift away from platforms that haven’t honoured their audience with truly passionate and authoritative content,” he adds. "The influencers that resonate are those that bring people into the conversation. That can only be a good thing for both sides."

This article first appeared in WOW’s Legacy Issue #75

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Watchmaking Trends To Expect in 2025: Milestones & Shifts Shaping the Industry

The Future of Watchmaking Is Already Ticking

New watches begin development many years before launch, potentially, and brand management decides when to pull the trigger. In this sense, looking ahead to 2025 is not too difficult. Broadly speaking, forecasting such things as the dominance of the sports watch and the related return of the integrated bracelet is more difficult to get right. For this list, we decided to be bold and tell you what you can 100 percent expect to happen, and also what we hope will happen. 

It will not surprise you that we think the rough weather of 2024 will carry over into 2025, and there is every chance that brands will respond with more muted watches. Conservatism remains the tried-and-tested path to survival for big luxury, after all. This will be bad news for those who expect attention-grabbing moves from the birthday boys; brands have delayed major launches in the past and there is no reason to think 2025 will be different. On the other hand, brands that were big with the crypto set might be keeping the champagne at the ready since a Trump presidency in the USA is seen as beneficial; on the back of his election win, crypto rose to record highs and perhaps 2025 will be the year everyone finally goes to the moon. Keep those fingers crossed that the ballooning AI hype does not pop… 

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Of course, macroeconomic trends are outside the scope of articles like this one but it should always be remembered that fine watchmaking is vulnerable to how confident the wealthy feel. You will note that we have left the secondary market out of our list of predictions and that is by design. While availability is not great, the market has largely righted itself, but that could change. Certain in-demand evergreens still command higher-than-RRP and this is mainly supported by collectors who are a little too pampered by brands and those who are not. This is a feature of the world of watches and thus we will say no more about it. 

Artistry of the world’s premier independent watchmakers come together under one roof at Sincere Haute Horlogerien (SHH)

Finally, we could have said a lot more about the various leadership shakeups in the sector we gaze critically at but we shall see if the desired results roll in. Again, a lot is out of the control of the top brass but, at the highest levels of quality, they do need to figure out how to respond to the continuing rise of independent watchmakers. As long as retailers keep the action going, we foresee no changes. That said, here are our five top sort-of predictions for the new year in watchmaking. 

Legacy Matters

Bell & Ross concluded 2024 with the unveiling of the BR-05 Skeleton Arctic Blue.

Anniversaries matter, or at least they do when the parties involved have decided on some number as being a big deal. While brands such as Rolex and Bell & Ross do not like to make a fuss, many more certainly do. In what is a yearly exercise for us, we check all the brand anniversaries and then even some key collections. What we are looking for here are indications that a special watch might be forthcoming, or maybe a fresh collection or subcollection. Consider that the Royal Oak Offshore was conceived as a sort of tribute and legacy transfer for the 20th anniversary of the Royal Oak. In 2025, we are particularly looking forward to Vacheron Constantin’s 270th, Breguet’s 250th and Audemars Piguet’s 150th but there are so many that we do expect some to skip the fanfare, as Zenith did in 2024 for the 55th anniversary of the El Primero. Here are a few brands and their big dates: A. Lange & Sohne (180th); Blancpain (290th); Maurice Lacroix (50th); Panerai (165th); TAG Heuer (165th) and Zenith (160th). It may have escaped most of us but 2024 was Patek Philippe’s 185th and the brand delivered an important milestone for itself and the industry to mark the occasion: the Cubitus. 

The TAG Heuer Formula 1 Chronograph x Oracle Red Bull Racing Watch (pictured above). 2025 sees  TAG Heuer return as the Official Timekeeper for Formula 1.

Leadership Moves That Could Reshape the Industry

Jaeger-LeCoultre announced the appointment of Jérôme Lambert as Maison Chief Executive Officer, effective January 1, 2025.

Given the mixed economic outlook for watchmaking in 2025 — a continuation of the present scenario - quite a number of brands have course-corrected in 2024. In fact, the biggest news of all was the rise of Nicolas Bos to the group CEO position at Richemont. Staying with the same group, perhaps the most surprising news was the return of Jerome Lambert as CEO of Jaeger-LeCoultre; Lambert had been group COO and then CEO, although the role was reportedly very different to the one Bos now occupies, now that Richemont Chairman Johann Rupert will be more hands-off again. Other power moves at this watchmaking group include Louis Ferla getting the top job at Cartier, handing off his CEO hat at Vacheron Constantin to Laurent Perves (an in-house promotion); Catherine Renier climbs into the hotseat at Van Cleef & Arpels (she was at Jaeger-LeCoultre) while the CEO role at Roger Dubuis remains officially unoccupied. At LVMH, another game of musical chairs happened after the elevation of Frederic Arnault as the CEO of the watchmaking division and continuing tough times in China. With Ricardo Guadalupe retiring from the CEO position at Hublot, LVMH tapped Julien Tornare to take over; Tornare had been CEO of TAG Heuer, where he succeeded Arnault. Antoine Pin, former watchmaking boss at Bvlgari, replaces Tornare at TAG Heuer; Pin’s former role at the Roman jeweller has yet to be filled, officially. While Swatch Group is faring no better than its group peers in China, there has been little movement at the top there. A significant difference is at Breguet, where longtime Omega man Gregory Kissling has been appointed CEO. 

Richemont appoints Catherine Rénier as the new CEO Of Van Cleef & Arpels

Shaping Up

Tissot T-Touch Connect Sport

With market observers and shareholders questioning the big brands over their China strategies and exposure, and perhaps even the sort of watches consumers in that market want, now might be the right moment for something completely different. Leading the way in this is an apparent renewed push in the neglected form watch category. The most prominent example here is the Patek Philippe Cubitus, and the Geneva brand has never bet big on China. Well, it is no bigger than it has in any other important market. It will be interesting to see if the new collection marks new China moves for the brand as it could herald sweeping changes across the board in watchmaking. We are also looking out for what high-impact brands such as Tissot and Swatch do, on the more affordable side. For the moment, all eyes will be on Watches and Wonders Geneva 2025 to see if more form pieces debut. It will take some years before the dust settles, just as it did some 20 years ago when brands tried to crack the dominance of the round shape.

Collaborations Fuel Creativity

In 2021, Ferrari and Richard Mille, driven by their shared quest for perfection, joined forces to create a long-term partnership.

Will brand collaborations pick up steam or will things stall? We answer our own question because these collaborations have been in the works for years maybe so they can only be delayed or cancelled. Typically, most watch brands have steered away from collaboration as keeping everything under one roof seemed the most efficient way of controlling brand DNA. Over the last year, and arguably even a few years before, the collaborative spirit seemed to be picking up steam. Watches and cars have always been a great pairing: Richard Mille has Ferrari, Roger Dubuis selected Lamborghini a couple of years ago and most recently H. Moser & Cie picked Alpine to cross-brand their products. There was once a time when it was considered sacrilege to have the Bamford Watch Company detail a Rolex but since then, the LVMH group has doubled down with a few key partnerships a couple of years ago. This year we saw them take this further through a unique collaboration between two houses we thought would never meet: Louis Vuitton and Akrivia. This is the beautifully made dual-face LVRR-01 Chronographe à Sonnerie. Even artist Seconde Seconde seems to be finding constant collaborative opportunities with big brands like Moser at one point, and others like Timex and Louis Erard. Speaking of Louis Erard, they have also been steadily gaining momentum with a string of collaborative watches with big names in the artisanal watchmaking scene like Vianney Halter, Kudoke, Konstantin Chaykin and Alain Silberstein. We have no doubt this will continue well into 2025.

Stoned and Dethroned

The precious stone dial trend seems to be coming back strong in 2024, a trend that we think should follow well into 2025. Of course, using these unique minerals as dials isn’t something new. What brand can resist offering a client a unique piece and due to the nature of these stones, whichever way you slice it, the resulting dial will offer enough variance to be different from however many watches are in that same collection. This year there were fantastic examples of these dials, including one from Ulysse Nardin using a rare mineral called chrysocolla, resulting in a dial that looks almost like the waters of some atoll out in the middle of the ocean. Of course, who can forget the limited edition models of Lange 1 watches that A. Lange & Sohne made to celebrate its 35th anniversary where these beautiful watches were furnished with even more pristine onyx dials. The laborious process of crafting these dials – sourcing the perfect sizes of stones, carefully slicing them into thin enough slices without them breaking, and getting the right alignment for the hands and indices – would be prohibitive for smaller brands to use them. Well, everyone was wrong about this because, last year, more than a handful of microbrands started using them. Timex put one in their Q Timex GMT; Baltic offered three limited edition runs with their Prismic Boutique Editions; and even new entries like Dennison Watches were able to offer these beautiful stone dials at extremely affordable prices. Stones like lapis lazuli and malachite are no longer reserved for ultra-luxury watches. Expect more good news on this front in 2025.

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